Host Roifield Brown engages in conversation with New York Times bestselling author David Lipsky about his latest book, "The Parrot and the Igloo: Climate and the Science of Denial." Lipsky's work dives into the tangled history of climate change denial in America, tracing its origins and exploring the intersection of science, money, and the American psyche.

Lipsky's narrative is compelling, drawing connections between historical technological advancements and the cultural pushback against scientific consensus. He skillfully illustrates how early climate warnings, dating back to the 1910s, were overshadowed by societal fascination with the benefits of industrialization and technological progress. The conversation shifts to contemporary times, highlighting the paradox of technological solutions like fracking reducing emissions while being environmentally controversial.

Lipsky and Brown also discuss the psychological and cultural aspects of denial, emphasizing how deeply rooted skepticism and anti-elitism in American society have fueled resistance to scientific evidence. The discussion underscores the moral complexities and the often misplaced burden of responsibility on individuals rather than systemic change. The episode is a thought-provoking examination of how history, culture, and politics shape our understanding and response to climate change.

Quotes:

1. "A sufficiently advanced technology will always seem like magic." - David Lipsky
2. "People start pollution. People can stop it." - Famous Ad Slogan
3. "The phrase 'climate change' was designed to make people less anxious about it." - David Lipsky
4. "The most honest answer to why you drive or fly is: we didn't make that deal. We accepted the world as it was presented." - David Lipsky
5. "We need to change our laws, not our light bulbs." - Al Gore

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