This week on the podcast, Angela welcomes Clint Smith, author of How the Word is Passed: A Reckoning with the History of Slavery Across America. Clint shares stories about the places he visited and people he met on his mission to understand the legacy of slavery in the US. Angie and Clint also talk about the gift of poetry, how much we can learn about the past by talking to our elders, and, the best kind of jokes, according to his kids.

How The Word is Passed is available now, and you can purchase it via the link on our website, LitUpPodcast.com. You can read more of Clint's writing at clintsmithiii.com and at the Atlantic, where is a staff writer.

Lit Up is a Podcast from Sugar23. It is hosted by Angela Ledgerwood. The show is produced by Liam Billingham. Mike Mayer and Michael Sugar are the executive producers. The theme music is by Andrey Radovsky.