In this episode of our weekly interview show, TWF! - Tech Wave Forum, host and CIF CEO David Terrar will interview Steven Dickens, VP and Practice Leader at The Futurum Group. They'll be talking about why the cloud landscape is necessarily hybrid, matching workloads to technology, how Gen AI has changed the game in 2023, the continuing importance of the mainframe, the Open Mainframe Project, the success and growth of Futurum, and what's next for cloud in 2024, 5, and 6.