In this episode of CMOtalk Klaas talks to Patrick Stal, Chief Marketing Officer at Zepz. Patrick is a seasoned marketing executive with over 20 years of experience in the advertising and tech industry. Prior to joining Zepz, Patrick was leading N26, as VP of global marketing and at Uber he was heading up the EMEA leadership team. We will talk about the transformation of marketing into a force for good and the impact of ESGs.