Season #4 WATER PRIVATIZATION AND ITS RADICAL ALTERNATIVES

Minute 1 what in Season 4

Minute 2.15 who joins us in Season 4

Minute 3 about the Introductory Episode (English)

Minute 5.30 onwards a conversation with Nila Ardhianie, Marwa and Mohamad Mova Al’Afghani (Bahasa Indonesia)

In Season 4, I have discussions with David McDonald (Queen’s University), Franziska Paul (University of Glasgow), Mangala Subramaniam (Virginia Commonwealth University), Margherita D’Andrea(University of Naples) and Giuseppe Micciarelli (University of Salerno), as well as Sirisha Naidu (University of Missouri - Kansas City). Equally important, we also hear from Muhammad Reza Sahib, Irwansyah and many other Indonesian activists and scholar activists.

In this introductory episode I have a conversation with three researchers who have been following the anti-privatization and anti-commercialization movement in Indonesia. Nila Ardhianie is joining us, she is the founder of Amrta Institute for Water Literacy. We are also accompanied by Marwa, a lecturer at the University of Gadjah Mada and a PhD candidate at Cambridge University. Not the least important, we are happy to have with us Mohamad Mova Al’Afghani the founder and director of Center for Regulation Policy and Governance. Our conversation is in Bahasa Indonesia, but they have also individually published a number of articles, so find them in the internet for more knowledge. I think in our conversation we have listed important issues for us to immediately follow up for an improved water governance in Indonesia.

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Music:

Solidas by Marjinal. The music was created during the solidarity action in Berlin, which was organized by the band on 18 February 2022. The solidarity evening was meant to support the struggles of communities in Indonesia against land grabbing and environmental degradation caused by the mining industry. Specific dedication in that evening was for the farming community in Wadas, whose village was destroyed by stone mining.

Biru Beriak by Lair from Jatiwangi, West Java. The music is dedicated to fisherfolk communities.

Jakarta by Mardika (Revolt Music) from Jakarta.

On this episode CO-Water Voice collaborates with Trialog, a Journal for Planning and Building in a Global Context for the launching of Trialog Vol. 142 Decentralized Water Management in Rapidly Growing Cities. The guest editorial team from Hafencity Universität was led by Prof. Dr. -Ing. Wolfgang Dickhaut, with Ajith Edahoot, Tim Fettback, and Mahmoud Moursy.

On this podcast Episode, we hear the excerpts of the article presentations, and in the second part from the minute 34 onwards, I open the discussion session. It is opened and ended by a message from Trialog’s coordinating editor Dorcas Nthoki Nyamai.

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Opening music:

Biru Beriak by Lair from Jatiwangi, West Java. The music is dedicated to fisherfolk communities.

Theme music:

Solidas by Marjinal. The music was created during the solidarity action in Berlin, which was organized by the band on 18 February 2022. The solidarity evening was meant to support the struggles of communities in Indonesia against land grabbing and environmental degradation caused by the mining industry. Specific dedication in that evening was for the farming community in Wadas, whose village was destroyed by stone mining. The mining supplies the material to build a new large dam that had been long planned by the national government to supply water and energy for the new international airport in Southern Java.

Closing music and song:

Selamat Pagi by Sanggar Ciliwung Merdeka. The song was recorded by Prathiwi in Jakarta during their rehearsal on 18 March 2017. The children were still actively singing after their riverside workshop had been demolished in 2016, during a forced eviction. In 2016 alone, there were 193 cases of forced evictions with direct victims of 5.726 households and 5.379 informal business units in the kampungs of Jakarta, or the so-called slums, in the name of the Ciliwung river normalization program.

On this episode, we speak to Antje Stokman. She is a Professor of landscape architecture and landscape planning at HafenCity Universität Hamburg. She has led various urban water projects in different cities. Her academic research is centred at the interplays among hydrological dynamics, urban landscape, water governance as well as the social-cultural dynamics in the world of water. Today we talk about waterscape in the city, in what ways it matters for and are affected by the larger social-ecological scales, and how we can improve the management and planning of urban water infrastructures. There is some guidance we receive from this conversation such as a new holistic approach to urban water, considering the flow of water not only in its spatial dimension but also its temporal dimension, as well as some insights to improve education and knowledge accumulation within the urban water sector.

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Opening music:

Biru Beriak by Lair from Jatiwangi, West Java. The music is dedicated to fisherfolk communities.

Theme music:

Solidas by Marjinal. The music was created during the solidarity action in Berlin, which was organized by the band on 18 February 2022. The solidarity evening was meant to support the struggles of communities in Indonesia against land grabbing and environmental degradation caused by the mining industry. Specific dedication in that evening was for the farming community in Wadas, whose village was destroyed by stone mining. The mining supplies the material to build a new large dam that had been long planned by the national government to supply water and energy for the new international airport in Southern Java.

Season music:

Jakarta by Mardika (Revolt Music)

Bosman Batubara through his long research on Jakarta's floods and his personal reflection on rural-to-urban migration argues for a political ecology of urbanization. He has contributed greatly to the scholarship of urban water. I remember the debates organized by Bharat Punjabi, published by IJURR in 2015 to response to the important contribution of Karren Bakker, Privatizing Water. In these debates, one commentator Vinay Gidwani points at an area that could be improved in Karen Bakker's book, that is an analysis about the dialectic of city and country as intertwined ecologies. To me, Bosman Batubara has responded to Gidwani's call. This conversation was done in Bahasa Indonesia.

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Theme music:

Solidas by Marjinal. The music was created during the solidarity action in Berlin, which was organized by the band on 18 February 2022. The solidarity evening was meant to support the struggles of communities in Indonesia against land grabbing and environmental degradation caused by the mining industry. Specific dedication in that evening was for the farming community in Wadas, whose village was destroyed by stone mining. The mining supplies the material to build a new large dam that had been long planned by the national government to supply water and energy for the new international airport in Southern Java.

Opening music:

Biru Beriak by Lair from Jatiwangi, West Java. The music is dedicated to fisherfolk communities.

Season music:

Jakarta by Mardika (Revolt Music)

Katrin Pakizer is with us on this episode. She is a post-doc researcher at Eawag, the Swiss Federal Institute of Aquatic Science and Technology where she investigates different pathways that lead to water supply and wastewater regionalization. She is also a research associate at the ZHAW School of Management and Law in Switzerland, specifically at its Institute of Innovation and Entrepreneurship. On this episode we speak about her recently defended PhD Thesis at ETH Zürich, about Modular Decentralized Water Technologies. She works with several case studies, including the Housing Co-operative Equilibre in Geneva. From the latter, she found what she refers as experiments by the people and for the people. In the context of Switzerland, there is a long tradition of housing co-operative, and in this we see not individual actions but collective ones. Housing co-operatives function as social housing to include the needs of different income groups in the society. She also explains on this episode, the term ‘policy sequencing’ and some future research agenda in the water sector.

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Opening music:

Biru Beriak by Lair from Jatiwangi, West Java. The music is dedicated to fisherfolk communities.

Theme music:

Solidas by Marjinal. The music was created during the solidarity action in Berlin, which was organized by the band on 18 February 2022. The solidarity evening was meant to support the struggles of communities in Indonesia against land grabbing and environmental degradation caused by the mining industry. Specific dedication in that evening was for the farming community in Wadas, whose village was destroyed by stone mining. The mining supplies the material to build a new large dam that had been long planned by the national government to supply water and energy for the new international airport in Southern Java.

Season music:

Jakarta by Mardika (Revolt Music)

On this episode, we have a good opportunity to speak with Timothy Moss. Timothy Moss is a Senior Researcher at the Integrative Research Institute on Transformations of Human-Environment Systems at the Humboldt University of Berlin and Honorary Professor at the Leibniz University of Hannover.

He is the author of Remaking Berlin: A History of the City Through Infrastructure that was published in 2020. This conversation, with examples from Berlin, shows only a tiny tiny part of his knowledge about transformations and dynamics of urban infrastructures. For more good sources about Berlin, you can watch for example some films of his research project funded by the Gerda Henkel Foundation.

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Theme music:

Solidas by Marjinal. The music was created during the solidarity action in Berlin, which was organized by the band on 18 February 2022. The solidarity evening was meant to support the struggles of communities in Indonesia against land grabbing and environmental degradation caused by the mining industry. Specific dedication in that evening was for the farming community in Wadas, whose village was destroyed by stone mining. The mining supplies the material to build a new large dam that had been long planned by the national government to supply water and energy for the new international airport in Southern Java.

Season music:

Jakarta by Mardika (Revolt Music)

A small episode, a brief message from Prathiwi about the coming season on Urban Water.

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Music: Lair, Biru Beriak; Marjinal, Solidas

In the second season of CO-Water Voice, in summer 2022, I invite you to understand conflicts over water resources and water ecosystems in a critical manner.

As our guest on this episode, we have Sören Köpke, my colleague at the Department of International Agricultural Policy and Environmental Governance, at the University of Kassel. He currently works for the Aurora Project, which is a research cooperation among four universities in Lebanon, Marocco, Tunisia and Germany. In his works, he has been focusing on the social-ecological dynamics of food systems and international policy of environmental change. He has conducted an intensive field research in Sri Lanka for a long period, among his other international field works. His PhD thesis was defended at the Technische Universität Braunschweig in 2018, on drought, development and environmental conflicts in eight regions: Southern Madagascar, Inner Mongolia, Southern Malawi, Northerneast Brazil, Sri Lanka, and Andhra Pradesh and Rajasthan, India. On this episode, we have a conversation about the political ecology of dryland regions and a methodological approach to research on water (and water conflicts).

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CO-Water Theme Music: Solidas by Marjinal from Jakarta. The music was created during the solidarity action in Berlin, which was organized by the vocalist of the band on 18 February 2022. The solidarity evening was especially dedicated for the farming community in Wadas, a village that was destroyed by stone mining. The mining supplies the material to build a new large dam that had been long planned by the national government, to supply water and energy for the new international airport in Java.

Opening Music: Biru Beriak by Lair from Jatiwangi, West Java. The music is dedicated to fisherfolk communities.

Interview-opening music: Mahalnya Keadilan by Mardika (Revolt Music) from Jakarta.

Closing music and song: Selamat Pagi by Sanggar Ciliwung Merdeka. The song was recorded by Prathiwi in Jakarta during their rehearsal on 18 March 2017. The children were still actively singing after their riverside workshop had been demolished in 2016, during a forced eviction. In 2016 alone, there were 193 cases of forced evictions with direct victims of 5.726 households and 5.379 informal business units in the kampungs of Jakarta, or the so-called slums, in the name of the Ciliwung river normalization program.

In the second season of CO-Water Voice, in summer 2022, I invite you to understand conflicts over water resources and water ecosystems in a critical manner.

Leila Harris is with us on this episode! She is a Professor at the Institute for Resources Environment and Sustainability (IRES) and the Institute for Gender, Race, Sexuality and Social Justice (GRSJ) at the University of British Columbia. On this episode, we have an interesting conversation about equity in counterbalancing efficiency, the pluriverse of water systems, as well as the spatial and scalar dimensions of water conflict.

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CO-Water Theme Music: Solidas by Marjinal from Jakarta. The music was created during the solidarity action in Berlin, which was organized by the vocalist of the band on 18 February 2022. The solidarity evening was especially dedicated for the farming community in Wadas, a village that was destroyed by stone mining. The mining supplies the material to build a new large dam that had been long planned by the national government, to supply water and energy for the new international airport in Java.

Opening Music: Biru Beriak by Lair from Jatiwangi, West Java. The music is dedicated to fisherfolk communities.

Interview-opening and closing music: Mahalnya Keadilan by Mardika (Revolt Music) from Jakarta.

A conversation with Ahmed Soliman, a PhD Candidate at the Department of International Agricultural Policy and Environmental Governance, University of Kassel.

Opening music:

Solidas by Marjinal. The music was created during the solidarity action in Berlin, which was organized by the vocalist of the band on 18 February 2022. The solidarity evening was especially dedicated for the farming community in Wadas, a village that was destroyed by stone mining. The mining supplies the material to build a new large dam that had been long planned by the national government, to supply water and energy for the new international airport in Java.

Closing music and song:

Selamat Pagi by Sanggar Ciliwung Merdeka. The song was recorded by Prathiwi in Jakarta during their rehearsal on 18 March 2017. The children were still actively singing after their riverside workshop had been demolished in 2016, during a forced eviction. In 2016 alone, there were 193 cases of forced evictions with direct victims of 5.726 households and 5.379 informal business units in the kampungs of Jakarta, or the so-called slums, in the name of the Ciliwung river normalization program.