Richard Chan joins Karen on a call from Melbourne in Australia, where he talks about how he helps fathers who are so busy at work that they can't switch off when they get home (something most of us can relate too). How they become unknowingly disconnected with the family, especially their children that in itself, can lead to behaviour problems .
Please note that Richard was outside when this recording took place. And given the devastating fires in Australia at the time of this recording, please enjoy the sound of the Australian birds knowing that our planet is fragile and that we need to protect ourselves and the animals that we share our lives with.