We talk with Coconino County Supervisor Patrice Horstman about Coconino County’s sudden loss of just under $2 million in federal Health and Human Services (HHS) grant funding. The conversation explores how this cut impacts local health programs and the county’s most vulnerable residents. We also discuss the growing pressure to cut government spending and concerns about fraud in public programs. Patrice explains the strict oversight and accountability measures in place for these grants, pushing back against the idea that local health funding is wasted or misused. This episode puts the county’s experience in the context of a nationwide push for spending cuts and heightened scrutiny over how public funds are managed.