In this episode, Alex and Jen discuss the difference between change and transformation. What is change, what is transformation and how do you know which one is needed and when? Jen gives insight into a point in her life when she knew transformation had taken place and Alex offers a very useful and rather amusing caterpillar analogy.

As ever let us know if you have any questions or queries or would like to get involved in the conversation then Jen and Alex are here to help.

Welcome to coffee and coaching, (other hot drinks are available) so grab one, sit back and listen.