We're back from our hiatus and boy did the social justice conversation hit the fan. Matt and Jake dive into three main topics: the new Founder's trailer, our Matthew Hall interview getting picked up on discernment blogs, and the blog conversation between Thabiti Anyabwile and Tom Ascol.

 

Links mentioned:

Founders Ministries

By What Standard? cinedoc

Resignations from Founders Ministries' Board

Ascol: Social justice movement 'greatest threat to gospel' I've ever seen

Our Matthew Hall interview

Enemies Within The Church

Critical Race Theory Promoted by Three Professors at Flagship Southern Baptist Seminary

Is There an Evangelical ‘Social Justice Movement’? by Thabiti Anyabwile

Yes, the Social Justice Movement Is a Threat to Evangelicals by Tom Ascol

Insistence Is Not Evidence: A Final Reply to Tom Ascol by Thabiti Anyabwile

Rejection is Not a Rebuttal: A Final Reply to Thabiti Anyabwile by Tom Ascol

Bret Weinstein, Heather Heying & the Evergreen Equity Council

Resolution 9

The Sufficiency of Scripture by Carl Trueman

 

Credits:

Theme music by: David Butler

Produced by: David Butler

Podcast design by: Jake Cannon

Additional consulting by: Nick Francis

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Today we're chatting it up with Aimee Byrd, author of the forthcoming book, Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood” (2020, Zondervan). We are diving into her critique of the complimentarianism movement, the word "headship," and a better way forward in empowering women in the local church.

 

You can read more of Aimee’s stuff at Mortification of Spin.

 

Passage of the day:

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." (Genesis 1:27, ESV).

 

Links Mentioned: 

Recovering Biblical Manhood & Womanhood: A Response to Evangelical Feminism by John Piper and Wayne Grudem

The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood

Danvers Statement

Eternal Submission in the Trinity? A Quick Guide to the Debate by Andrew Wilson

The Concept of Woman: Volume 1, Volume 2, Volume 3 by Sister Prudence Allen

Men and Women in Christ: Fresh Light From The Biblical Texts by Andrew Bartlett

 

Aimee’s recommendations: 

Beyond Authority and Submission: Women and Men in Marriage, Church, and Society by Rachel Green Miller

Neither Complementarian nor Egalitarian: A Kingdom Corrective to the Evangelical Gender Debate by Michelle Lee-Barnewall

Complementarian Spirituality by Natalie Brand

 

Credits:

Theme music by: David Butler

Produced by: David Butler

Podcast design by: Jake Cannon

Additional consulting by: Nick Francis

Sponsored by: Switch Coffee, JM Films

Remember the saying that you should never talk about religion and politics at the dinner table? Well, we're breaking that rule today with our guest Jonathan Leeman. Jonathan wrote an incredibly thought-provoking book a few years ago titled, How The Nations Rage: Rethinking Faith and Politics in a Divided Age.” We dive into some of his main ideas and how Christians need to rethink politics and their engagement in the public square. 

 

Passage of the day:

"Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord and against his Anointed, saying, “Let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us.” He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision. Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying, “As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill”” (Psalm 2:1-6, ESV).

 

Links Mentioned: 

ThriVe St. Louis

9Marks

Good and Bad Ways to Think about Religion and Politics by Robert Benne

 

Theme music by: David Butler

Produced by: David Butler

Podcast design by: Jake Cannon

Additional consulting by: Nick Francis

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Controversy over an interracial relationship might seem like the thing of the 1960's, but according to co-host Matt and his fiancee Amanda, it was anything but a bygone controversy. They recount their experience with interracial dating and how God used it to break down the dividing walls of racial hostility in close family members.

 

Links Mentioned:

I Broke Up With Her Because She's White by Christopher Rivas

 

Credits:

Theme music by: David Butler

Produced by: David Butler

Podcast design by: Jake Cannon

Additional consulting by: Nick Francis

Special thanks to: Amanda Lynn and her family

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When you think about your identity, where's the first place you go? In our confused culture, many turn to their sexuality to define their identity. Dr. Christopher Yuan thinks that is a mistake. We chat it up with Dr. Yuan about his powerful testimony, his new book, “Holy Sexuality and the Gospel, and what it means to have God define our identity.

 

Passage of the Day:

"Therefore, with your minds ready for action, be sober-minded and set your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. As obedient children, do not be conformed to the desires of your former ignorance. But as the one who called you is holy, you also are to be holy in all your conduct; for it is written, Be holy, because I am holy.” (1 Peter 1:13-16, CSB)

 

Interview Notes:

7:54-24:56 - Testimony

26:01-32:49 - How do we define our identity? 

33:50-38:00 - Defining sexuality and "holy sexuality"

39:09-47:35 - Critique of the Revoice conference and how do we define "attraction," "temptation," and "desire."

48:30-56:21 - How do we have conversations with Progressives and our LGBT neighbors about these issues?

57:38-1:04:15 - Is LGBT justice the same as racial justice?

1:05:05-1:08:05 - How should the church respond to people who identify as LGBT?

1:08:45-1:11:10 - How do we talk to our kids about sexuality?  

1:11:15-1:14:36 - How can we better love our LGBT neighbors?

1:15:25-1:19:50 - Counsel for people who are struggling with same-sex desires.

 

Links Mentioned:

Christopher Yuan’s site

Out of a Far Country: A Gay Son's Journey to God. A Broken Mother's Search for Hope. by Christopher Yuan and Angela Yuan

Revoice

The Gospel Comes With A House Key by Rosaria Butterfield

 

Credits:

Theme music by: David Butler

Podcast design by: Jake Cannon

Additional consulting by: Nick Francis

Sponsored by: Christian Standard Bible, Switch Coffee, and JM Films.

When people hear “racial trauma,” a lot of things come to their mind. In this episode, we sit down with Kyle J. Howard, a Biblical and racial trauma counselor in Atlanta and ask him to define “ racial trauma.” We walk through what this looks like on a practical level, how the Bible relates to it, and we even get his thoughts on The Statement on Social Justice and the Gospel.

 

Passage of the day:

"I love you, Lord, my strength. The Lord is my rock, my fortress, and my deliverer, my God, my rock where I seek refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold. I called to the Lord, who is worthy of praise, and I was saved from my enemies. The ropes of death were wrapped around me; the torrents of destruction terrified me. The ropes of Sheol entangled me; the snares of death confronted me. I called to the Lord in my distress, and I cried to my God for help. From his temple he heard my voice, and my cry to him reached his ears." (Psalm 18:1-6, CSB).

 

Interview Notes:

7:38-16:32 - Kyle's journey from gang member to racial trauma counselor.

17:00-22:07 - Defining "racial trauma."

23:50-31:30 - How can people have racial trauma if they have never experienced slavery or Jim Crow?

32:54-38:30 - Is the term "white fragility" helpful or unhelpful?

39:50-47:20 - Does using the term "white" automatically create a negative connotation? Is using the term"white" and "black" mean we have given over to social conditioning ourselves?

48:12-56:04 - Counseling minorities who feel like they have assimilated.

58:02-1:03:35 - Addressing the charge of being a slanderer.

1:04:45-1:10:25 "Just preach the gospel" and pursuing unity.

1:10:40-1:15:17 - Problems with the Statement on Social Justice.

1:16:08-1:19:14 "Why are they trying to put me on a train I don't want to be on?"

1:19:52-1:22:10 - Kyle's perspective on the heart of the matter in the disagreements on social justice.

1:22:50-1:29:10 Practical advice to people trying to engage with racial trauma.

 

Links mentioned:

Kyle J. Howard's website

Trauma healing, conciliation focus of racism forum by Diana Chandler

Suffering and the Heart of God: How Trauma Destroys and Christ Restores by Diane Langberg

Urban Apologetics Responds to Dr. White

"Philosophical" Response, Racialism Again, Calls Including Church of Christ Question

The Color of Compromise by Jemar Tisby

 

Credits:

Theme music by: David Butler

Produced by: David Butler

Podcast design by: Jake Cannon

Additional consulting by: Nick Francis

Sponsored by: Christian Standard Bible, Switch Coffee, JM Films

We continue our conversation with Josh Buice, founder of the G3 Conference and pastor of Pray’s Mills Baptist Church on the Statement on Social Justice and the Gospel. Be sure and listen to part 1 here.

 

Links mentioned:

Reformation 21 Article One

A House Divided Cannot Stand (Matt Chandler’s MLK50 Conference Talk)

Woke Church by Eric Mason

 

Theme music by: David Butler

Produced by: David Butler

Podcast design by: Jake Cannon

Additional consulting by: Nick Francis

Sponsored by: Crossway, Switch Coffee, JM Films

We sit down with Josh Buice, founder of the G3 Conference and pastor of Pray's Mills Baptist Church to talk about the Statement on Social Justice and the Gospel. As one of the leaders in creating this statement, we push back on the statement itself as we discuss what social justice is and where we ultimately disagree.

 

Passage of the Day:

"I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all" (Ephesians 4:1-6, ESV).

 

Links mentioned:

Tom Ascol and the SJ&G with Doctrine and Devotion

Dear Mike Brown by Preston Perry

MLK50

The FAQs: What Christians Should Know About Social Justice by Joe Carter

Dr. Russell Moore: “The Storm-Tossed Family” interview with Lauren Green

Tim Keller's Speech Act Theory

 

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Produced by: David Butler

Podcast design by: Jake Cannon

Additional consulting by: Nick Francis

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Matt and Jake chop it up over what happened in 2018 and what changes are happening in 2019.

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Today we sit down with Trillia Newbell, author of God’s Very Good Idea, a children's book addressing the Gospel and diversity. We talk through what it was like creating curriculum for children and the importance of teaching our kids the Gospel.

Books mentioned:United: Captured by God's Vision for Diversity

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