Crossover episode! Alan Levine aka CogDog returns to Gettin' Air to flip the script on this podcast by bringing the OEG Voices Podcast, which features "the international perspective of open education practitioners", to Gettin' Air and becoming the host! We chat about the origins of Gettin' Air: The Open Pedagogy Podcast and The Liberated Learner project, among other thing. Also featured in this episode: 4 year old Hattie.