Ann Johnson, Security Executive at Microsoft and host of the afternoon cyber tea podcast, joins Dave to discuss social engineering and ways to help prevent it, as well as the different types of social engineering she's seen from her experience, Dave and Joe share some listener follow up about macros in Office documents, Joe has two stories this week, one is on how Seth Green lost over 300K in NFTs, and the other is on a new scam with Chatbots on phishing emails, Dave's story is on how a California man was arrested for siphoning money, our catch of the day comes from listener Sadik who shares a suspicious looking email telling him, that his Norton service is about to expire.

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