Chapter 18 of Miranda July's All Fours is barely three pages in total. It only takes eight minutes to listen to it on audio. Tommy and Amy, however, do not let that stop them from talk talk talking for so long about rage, intercourse as a disappointing end game, and centering pleasure. They dig deep into the anatomy of a marital argument and hit on a profound distinction: working on your relationship vs. practicing loving. 

In fact, their conversation was so long that, once again, they chose to break up the convo into two separate episodes. I KNOW. But they couldn't bear to edit out all the juicy goodness. Enjoy!

Mentioned in this Episode: 

All Fours by Miranda July

Magnificent Sex by Peggy Kleinplatz  and A. Ménard 

Under Pressure by Lisa Damour

Night Road by Kristin Hannah

All About Love by bell hooks

Original Music:

Song: Only Playing

Artist: Rick Real and The Warmth

Album: USA #1

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Work From Bed Friday is a podcast hosted by Amy Hoffmann and Tommy Borden, a committed couple of 30+ years. Funny, spicy, and insightful, they discuss marriage, sex, and connection through the lens of contemporary books and media. Every Friday. From bed.