Comedian and bread obsessive Tom Papa joins Jo for a hilariously honest chat about carbs, control, and the comedy of trying to keep it together. They dish on Tom’s chic kitchen brand collab and his new comedy tour! 

From growing up in a “house of yes” where Twinkies were currency, to becoming the kind of man who travels the country with a sourdough starter, Tom has seen the best and worst of what happens when snacks become therapy. 

They talk about the fine line between comfort food and chaos, why some people bake to cope, and how being “the bread guy” accidentally made Tom a philosopher. 

Plus: an unsolicited SURPRISE SNACKS! taste test, a deep dive on donut guilt, and one of the most unhinged conversations about a breakfast snack item ever recorded. 

It’s funny, warm, and a little dark—like an overbaked croissant you still can’t stop eating.

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