Liz Samuel joins Kate and they discuss how being a good parent includes being able to admit that you're an imperfect human, and not having to hold yourself to impossible standards. They also get into the importance of starting to feel like you are enough, and learning not to compare yourself to other people. Then Liz's daughter, Isabelle, joins them and they get into the necessity of people of various races and cultures learning to interact despite their perceived differences.

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