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What does it take for a family business to survive — and thrive — for more than a century?
On this episode of Commercial Construction Coffee Talk, David Corson sits down with Michael Grossman, fourth-generation owner of Kensington Furniture in Northfield, New Jersey, for a conversation about family business, furniture retail, technology, AI and adapting to an industry that never stops changing.
Founded in 1912 by Michael’s great-grandfather, Meyer Max Grossman, Kensington Furniture has experienced more than 100 years of changes in manufacturing, retail, consumer behavior and technology. Michael shares lessons from nearly 50 years in the furniture business and explains why independent retailers still have opportunities to compete with much larger companies.
David and Michael discuss the evolution of furniture manufacturing from traditional craftsmanship to robotics and automation, how artificial intelligence is changing sales training and content creation and why AI-powered search is transforming the way consumers discover businesses and make purchasing decisions.
They also examine today’s furniture retail market, the effects of interest rates and slower home sales and why aggressive, adaptable businesses can find opportunities even during challenging economic conditions.
The conversation goes deeper than business. As two people with deep family roots in the furniture industry, David and Michael share stories about craftsmanship, customer service, lifelong relationships, family legacy and the importance of making the most of your time.
Topics include:
• The 114-year history of Kensington Furniture
• Building and protecting a fourth-generation family business
• How furniture retail has changed over the past 50 years
• Robotics and automation in furniture manufacturing
• How AI is changing retail, marketing and sales training
• Changing consumer search and buying behavior
• Competing as an independent retailer
• Interest rates, housing and the furniture market
• Customer service and relationship building
• Family, legacy and lifelong learning
Hosted by David Corson, Commercial Construction Coffee Talk brings together entrepreneurs, executives, innovators and industry leaders for conversations about business, construction, retail, leadership and the experiences that shaped their careers.
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On this episode of Commercial Construction Coffee Talk, host David Corson, publisher of Commercial Construction & Renovation (CCR) Magazine, sits down with Mike Marden, founder of WDS Integrated Design Build, to talk about the evolution of commercial construction, the growth of industrial projects and how artificial intelligence is becoming part of the construction business.
Mike shares his journey from drafting student to licensed architect, contractor and founder of WDS Integrated Design Build, a Phoenix-based architecture and design-build firm specializing in commercial tenant improvements, industrial construction and ground-up projects.
One of the biggest topics: AI in construction.
Mike explains how WDS is incorporating AI into its operations and how approximately 75% of the company's new inquiries are now coming through ChatGPT or similar AI tools. He also discusses the potential for AI to help construction professionals read plans, identify trade partners, develop estimates and automate repetitive tasks — while keeping experienced people involved in verification and decision-making.
David and Mike also discuss:
• The growth of industrial construction
• Commercial tenant improvements
• Architecture and integrated design-build
• AI and ChatGPT as business development tools
• Using AI in estimating and construction management
• The changing relationship between architects and contractors
• Office, medical, retail and restaurant construction
• Facility maintenance and ongoing improvements
• Mike's Empire Scottsdale transformation project
• Why relationships and human interaction still matter in an AI-driven industry
• The future of construction technology and project management
Mike also shares the philosophy behind his business: Leave people better than you found them.
Learn more about WDS Integrated Design Build: wds.build
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The plumbing industry has a workforce problem — and the demand for skilled professionals isn't slowing down.
In this episode of Commercial Construction Coffee Talk (CCCT), host David Corson, Publisher of Commercial Construction & Renovation (CCR), sits down with Kerry Stackpole, CEO and Executive Director of Plumbing Manufacturers International (PMI), and Troy Benavidez of LIXIL to discuss the skilled labor shortage facing plumbing, construction and the broader building industry.
The conversation explores why skilled plumbers are essential to virtually every segment of the built environment, how manufacturers and industry organizations are helping develop the next generation of tradespeople and why attracting young people — as well as adults looking for a new career — has become increasingly important.
Kerry discusses the economic importance of plumbing and the enormous workforce challenge facing the profession, while Troy shares observations from WorldSkills Shanghai 2026, where young skilled professionals from around the world competed at the highest levels of their trades.
The discussion also examines how technology is changing the skills future plumbers will need, the relationship between manufacturers and installers and the growing importance of water conservation, water efficiency, reuse and sustainable building practices.
David also discusses CCR's commitment to skilled-trades education, his recent experience at Kids Building Minnesota and his vision for The Forge Trade School and the Commercial Construction & Renovation Hall of Fame in Cartersville, Georgia.
The message throughout the conversation is clear: America's skilled trades aren't yesterday's careers. They are essential to building tomorrow's economy.
From plumbing and construction to manufacturing, aviation, data centers, healthcare, hospitality and commercial facilities, the demand for people who know how to build, install, repair and maintain the country's infrastructure continues to grow.
https://www.safeplumbing.org
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerrystackpole
https://www.lixil.com
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What happens when one of construction technology's longtime entrepreneurs looks at where AI, BIM and spatial computing are taking the industry next?
David Corson, Publisher of Commercial Construction & Renovation and host of Commercial Construction Coffee Talk, sits down with Arol Wolford, CEO and founder of Spatial Construx, for a wide-ranging conversation about his remarkable career and the evolution of construction technology.
Arol traces his journey from his father's Material Survey Associates, founded in 1957, through the growth of Construction Market Data (CMD) and his involvement with technologies and companies that helped transform how the construction industry collects, visualizes and uses information.
The conversation explores Revit, VimBuild, Schema AI and Spatial Construx, along with the growing potential of spatial computing to put sophisticated building information and collaborative tools directly into the hands of construction professionals through mobile devices.
David and Arol also discuss the rapid advancement of artificial intelligence in construction, preserving architectural knowledge through AI, multilingual construction information, visualization of massive Revit models and how technology can help the industry improve productivity, efficiency and sustainability.
Arol also shares his perspective on the environmental responsibility facing the built environment and why smarter use of technology will be increasingly important for future generations.
From the early days of construction data to AI, BIM, Revit and spatial computing, this episode connects decades of construction technology history with what's coming next.
Learn more about Spatial Construx at https://spatialconstrux.com and connect with the company on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/spatialconstrux.
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What if a drone became another member of your construction team — monitoring the jobsite 24/7 without requiring an on-site pilot?
David Corson, Publisher of Commercial Construction & Renovation, sits down with Keith Miao, CEO and founder of Birdstop, and Doug Muhlbauer, principal software engineer, to explore how autonomous drone technology is changing construction, security and critical infrastructure monitoring.
Birdstop is moving drones beyond manually operated devices and turning them into autonomous, always-available site infrastructure. Their systems can monitor physical environments around the clock and deploy drones when needed to collect high-fidelity, real-time information.
Keith and Doug discuss applications including jobsite and perimeter security, construction progress tracking, project documentation, accurate measurements and 3D modeling — while reducing the need to put people into potentially hazardous environments.
Doug also shares his fascinating journey from working with the National Reconnaissance Office and satellite technology to helping develop Birdstop's autonomous drone systems. The conversation explores AI, LiDAR, advanced cameras, remote sensing, beyond-visual-line-of-sight operations and the software required to manage fleets and transform enormous amounts of collected data into useful information.
Birdstop says its systems can require only a few days of on-site installation, with approximately three weeks for full program implementation. The ultimate goal is simple: make the drone technology so seamless that customers don't have to think about the drones — they simply receive the information and security they need.
Learn more about Birdstop and its autonomous drone technology at Birdstop.io.
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Branded: On this episode of Commercial Construction Coffee Talk, CCR Publisher David Corson sits down with Jon Armour for a wide-ranging conversation about a career built around infrastructure, technology, construction and continuous reinvention.
Jon traces his journey from engineering and drafting work on power-generation projects at Black & Veatch to electronics, commercial real estate, construction project management and eventually IT infrastructure.
Today, his experience includes managing complex technology projects and overseeing more than 40 active projects while working in the utility sector.
The conversation explores the rapidly evolving world of data centers, power generation, cybersecurity and technology's growing role in construction and industrial facilities. Jon also discusses the importance of trade skills and the lessons he's collected from moving through several different industries during his career.
But Jon's story extends well beyond construction and technology. An author of two books, Branded and Intertwined, Jon talks about writing, family, faith and personal growth. He also shares another lifelong passion — cooking — and his upcoming trip to Italy for an intensive Italian cuisine certification program.
It's a CCCT conversation about careers rarely following a straight line, continuing to learn, adapting to change and pursuing the things that matter to you personally and professionally.
"Branded": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BFWNGQZK?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback
"Intertwined": https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Intertwined+by+Jon+Armour&i=stripbooks&crid=3UDST1YYM2J7T&sprefix=intertwined+by+jon+armour%2Cstripbooks%2C136&ref=nb_sb_noss
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On this episode of Commercial Construction Coffee Talk (CCCT), David Corson sits down with Kim Pierce, author of The Hands That Built This: Restoring Respect and Rebuilding the Future of the Trades, for a conversation about the men and women who build America—and why the future of the skilled trades matters to all of us.
Kim brings firsthand experience to the discussion, with years spent working as a carpenter and ironworker followed by two decades in construction safety. Her book tackles the skilled labor challenge head-on while making the case for apprenticeships, career education and restoring pride and respect to people who choose to work with their hands.
From construction sites and skilled labor to education, workforce development and the next generation, we discuss why young people need to see the trades not as a backup plan, but as an opportunity to build a career, financial independence and a legacy.
And on Labor Day, the message couldn't be more appropriate.
America wasn't built from behind a desk alone. It was built by carpenters, electricians, welders, ironworkers, plumbers, equipment operators and countless other skilled professionals who showed up every day and GSD—Got Stuff Done.
The question now is: Who will build the next generation of America?
Grab a cup of coffee and join us for this important conversation on Commercial Construction Coffee Talk.
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Grab your boots and get ready to give cancer the boot.
On Feb. 27, 2027, business leaders, community supporters, friends and families from across North Fulton, South Forsyth and North Georgia will come together at Reid Barn in Cumming, Georgia, for the inaugural North Georgia Cattle Baron’s Ball benefiting the American Cancer Society.
In this special conversation, we sit down with some of the people helping bring this exciting new North Georgia tradition to life:
Justin Ducharme, who is serving alongside his wife, Brittany Ducharme, as 2027 Event Chair
Justin Newell of INFORM North America, a member of the Board of Ambassadors
Alyson Kuhl of Krause Auto Group, a member of the Board of Ambassadors
We talk about the vision behind bringing the Cattle Baron’s Ball to North Georgia, why these local business and community leaders decided to get involved and how the event will combine a great night out with an even greater mission—helping the American Cancer Society continue the fight against cancer.
The Western-themed evening will feature food, drinks, dancing, auctions and plenty of boots-and-bling fun, all while raising funds and awareness for the American Cancer Society.
Cancer has touched almost every family in one way or another. Events like the Cattle Baron’s Ball demonstrate what can happen when business, community, leadership and philanthropy come together for a common purpose.
Mark your calendar:
Saturday, Feb. 27, 2027
Reid Barn
6844 Majors Road
Cumming, GA 30040
Whether you want to attend, sponsor, volunteer or support the mission, learn more about the 2027 North Georgia Cattle Baron’s Ball here:
2027 North Georgia Cattle Baron’s Ball
Put on your boots. Bring your friends. Support the mission. And let's help give cancer the boot.
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Justin Ducharme: NAPA Auto Parts
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What does it take to successfully build businesses across completely different industries?
On this episode of Commercial Construction Coffee Talk (CCCT), David Corson sits down with Kal Patel, Founder and CEO of Crestpoint Companies, for a wide-ranging conversation about entrepreneurship, hospitality, construction, real estate, inspection services, healthcare and marketing.
Kal has spent decades building businesses from the ground up. Today, Crestpoint Companies operates as an integrated hospitality development, construction and asset management firm, while Kal's entrepreneurial experience extends into 1st Inspection Services, urgent care and social media marketing.
What makes his story particularly interesting is the ability to take lessons learned in one business and apply them to another. Kal has written about taking principles learned in hospitality—customer experience, communication and service—and adapting them to healthcare, while systems and processes developed through franchising have helped drive consistency across inspection operations.
David and Kal discuss what it takes to recognize an opportunity, build the right systems, develop people and continue growing without losing sight of the customer.
The conversation explores:
Building and developing successful hospitality businesses
Hotel development, construction and asset management
Growing an inspection services operation
Bringing hospitality principles into urgent care
Entrepreneurship across multiple industries
Leadership, systems and accountability
Building strong teams and company cultures
Social media and the changing way businesses market themselves
Learning from setbacks and continuing to move forward
Turning ideas into sustainable businesses
What entrepreneurs should consider before pursuing their next opportunity
Kal's journey demonstrates an important business lesson: You don't necessarily have to reinvent yourself every time you enter a new industry. Sometimes the principles that made you successful in one business can become the foundation for success in the next.
Whether you're a contractor, developer, hotelier, entrepreneur, business owner, commercial real estate professional or someone looking for your next opportunity, this episode offers practical lessons about growth, resilience, leadership and execution.
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What does it take to successfully build businesses across completely different industries?
On this episode of Commercial Construction Coffee Talk (CCCT), David Corson sits down with Kal Patel, Founder and CEO of Crestpoint Companies, for a wide-ranging conversation about entrepreneurship, hospitality, construction, real estate, inspection services, healthcare and marketing.
Kal has spent decades building businesses from the ground up. Today, Crestpoint Companies operates as an integrated hospitality development, construction and asset management firm, while Kal's entrepreneurial experience extends into 1st Inspection Services, urgent care and social media marketing.
What makes his story particularly interesting is the ability to take lessons learned in one business and apply them to another. Kal has written about taking principles learned in hospitality—customer experience, communication and service—and adapting them to healthcare, while systems and processes developed through franchising have helped drive consistency across inspection operations.
David and Kal discuss what it takes to recognize an opportunity, build the right systems, develop people and continue growing without losing sight of the customer.
The conversation explores:
Building and developing successful hospitality businesses
Hotel development, construction and asset management
Growing an inspection services operation
Bringing hospitality principles into urgent care
Entrepreneurship across multiple industries
Leadership, systems and accountability
Building strong teams and company cultures
Social media and the changing way businesses market themselves
Learning from setbacks and continuing to move forward
Turning ideas into sustainable businesses
What entrepreneurs should consider before pursuing their next opportunity
Kal's journey demonstrates an important business lesson: You don't necessarily have to reinvent yourself every time you enter a new industry. Sometimes the principles that made you successful in one business can become the foundation for success in the next.
Whether you're a contractor, developer, hotelier, entrepreneur, business owner, commercial real estate professional or someone looking for your next opportunity, this episode offers practical lessons about growth, resilience, leadership and execution.
Grab a cup of coffee and join the conversation on Commercial Construction Coffee Talk.
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