In this final episode of the season, Annmarie and Matshidiso return to an ongoing theme: what does a just society really look like, and how can we get there? To bring all the threads together, they ask how the church can lead the way in demonstrating a justice mindset, and what questions we need to ask ourselves. Ultimately, it all leads back to the radical love of God, who is the very basis of our justice laws and our sense of right-ness: how can we represent that love and justice in our everyday selves?

In this episode, Matshidiso and Annmarie put the very concept of crime and punishment under scrutiny. If the prison system we've created is ultimately a failure, what kind of approach could take its place? The conversation moves from the need for acknowledgment of wrong, and consequences of that wrong, to establishing a humane, case-by-case understanding of criminality that views offenders truly as human beings made in the image of God. In particular, Annmarie brings her 25 years of experience in the youth justice space to deeply challenge our presumptions about crime and a whole section of society that we find convenient to forget about.

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References in this episode:

Reoffending rates - in the UK, 75% of ex-inmates reoffend within nine years of release, and 39.3% within the first twelve months

https://gtr.ukri.org/projects?ref=ES%2FK002023%2F1

In the New Testament of the Bible, the church is often referred to as a Body. In this episode, Annmarie and Matshidiso draw on this language to consider the lack of action on racism from the church in the UK, explaining why we should expect the church to look different from other institutions. They discuss why this is so important specifically in a white-majority country like the UK, the radical ideas that are open to us to take, and why the love of God is so necessary to achieve change. At the centre of this is power: will we live to see a church, and followers of Jesus, prepared to give up comfort and power to address the sins of the past?  

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References:

Michael E Taylor, The Interest: How the British Establishment Resisted the Abolition of Slavery  

Black population in London 13.3% as of latest regional gov.uk data:

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.s... 

Former footballer Dalian Atkinson murdered by PC Benjamin Monk:

https://news.sky.com/story/dalian-atk...

Annmarie and Matshidiso begin this episode redefining and clarifying the definition of racism, and the very concept of different races among human beings. Looking at racism as a mechanism of maintaining power, they break down the differences between racism and prejudice; or the classification of people groups; or the pre-judgments that might come about from people who have suffered at the hands of others. It's a conversation that will be familiar to many, and yet, as it unfolds, it's clear why the discussion is still ongoing, and why we still need greater, radical honesty from white voices in this sphere.

Justice is increasingly a word at the forefront of our social conversations, but like any word it's subject to interpretation and misunderstanding. In this episode Annmarie and Matshidiso talk about a Biblical view of both justice and fairness, how these have influenced our legal systems, and yet how they might differ from what we expect. They talk about the prevalence of injustice, and justice from the perspective of the most marginalised in society, including those who are incarcerated. The conversation reveals just how muddied the concepts of love and justice have become, in comparison to the commands of Scripture, and the testimony of Jesus himself.

Welcome back to Season 2 of Common Era! In our second season, we’re hosting a conversation between Annmarie Lewis, a leading business, youth and justice consultant, and Matshidiso, a composer, songwriter and podcaster with a background in human rights law.

In this episode Matshidiso and Annmarie discuss the sense of justice - and injustice - that has been an unavoidable part of their own lived experiences. Annmarie shares her journey towards working professionally in the justice space, in prisons and with youth in particular. She begins to talk about the struggles for young people in the prison system, the circumstances that bring them there, and the importance of representation, as a black woman in those places.

In our second season, we’re hosting a conversation between Annmarie Lewis and Matshidiso.

Annmarie Lewis OBE is a leading business and justice consultant - sought after in the fields of Justice Systems, Strategy, Business/Organisational Development and Design and Executive Leadership. Having previously founded her own award winning social enterprise, and consultancy business, she is also an accomplished academic, trainer and executive coach. Her passion and specialisms are within the youth justice sector, where she has worked across the entire spectrum of end to end justice, spanning 25 years.

A classically trained pianist, Matshidiso is also a composer, arranger and singer-songwriter. With a background in human rights law, her passion is to use music and creativity to promote human rights and justice-based projects. Matshidiso also has a podcast Holding Up the Ladder where she interviews people about their creative processes.

This season, Matshidiso and Annmarie sharing their journeys and experience in the justice space, discussing what justice really looks like from a theological perspective, where the church is falling short of this ideal, and what a better future might look like for faith movements in particular. The conversation is so full of paradigm-changing moments: challenging what justice is, what racism is, and the very concept of crime and punishment.

What exactly is coming to an end at this time? And how do we feel about those things ending? Perhaps we need to learn to hold healthy funerals, so that change can be acknowledged and mourned, rather than creating bitterness and division. In this final episode of our season, author and musican David Benjamin Blower and Passionist priest Nicholas Postlethwaite share what they think might be dying in this time, and how we might learn to be good undertakers of that process, alongside being midwives of the new things coming to life.

What does it feel like to be on the threshold of change - at significant moments in time? What's the feeling of being caught between the pressures of the past and the demands of the future? Passionist priest Nicholas Postlethwaite and post-evangelical poet David Benjamin Blower discuss the challenges of creating space and authentic conversation in those moments, and they share their own experiences of that place, where change is occurring and relationships are put under pressure.

In this episode David also mentions Martin Newell, another member of the Passionists, who has on multiple occasions faced arrest and prison time for non-violent protest against the arms trade, or environmental causes. You can read more about that here.

Pope Francis would be one of the influential Catholic voices in recent years reiterating the need to step outside our known world, and reframe it through the eyes of those on the margins of society. It's an idea that lies at the heart of the Passionist movement. Nicholas Postlethwaite from the Passionists, and post-evangelical poet David Benjamin Blower talk about the places they've lived - and while admittedly speaking from their own experience, they discuss their attempts to adopt a new narrative, where they themselves are not at the centre. They talk about how that's changed them, as well as discussing the politics involved in self-awareness, privilege and ideology.