In this week's episode, we talk with Winston-Salem Mayor Allen Joines about his long career in politics, why he's never made the jump to a "bigger pond" and competing against Raleigh and Charlotte for job creation. Does he worry about Krispy Kreme and Hanes leaving for “greener pastures”? Just how close was he to running for Congress and governor? We’ll get the scoop and hear from one of North Carolina’s current longest serving mayors of more than two decades now!