Complementary

Complementary

By Anthony Hobday, Katie LangermanArtsDesign
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Complementary episodes

  • 88: How AI impacts design systems

    Anthony interviews Katie about how AI has changed the practice of building and maintaining design systems.


    Hosts:

    Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Katie Langerman, Design Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman⁠

    39 min
  • 87: Opinionated vs. flexible software

    Anthony and Katie chat about what makes software opinionated or flexible and offer some examples of products.


    Hosts:

    Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Katie Langerman, Design Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman⁠

    36 min
  • 86: Icon design

    Anthony and Katie chat about articles written about Cursor's new icon designs.


    Original article: https://www.minoradventures.co/blog/the-making-of-cursors-icons

    Interview with Marek: https://www.casestudy.club/marek-minor-interview


    Hosts:

    Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Katie Langerman, Design Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman⁠

    58 min
  • 85: Simplicity

    How does simplicity differ from minimalism or complexity? Tune in to find out.


    Articles/books mentioned:


    Simple web design

    Anthony's notes on Simplicity

    Simplicity by Per Mollerup


    Hosts:

    Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Katie Langerman, Design Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman⁠

    46 min
  • 84: Interface elements with too much responsibility

    Anthony and Katie each pick a few interface elements that are really pulling their weight, perhaps more than they should be.


    Hosts:

    Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Katie Langerman, Design Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman⁠

    30 min
  • 83: Onboarding to a new design project

    Anthony and Katie discuss starting new roles and the process of getting up to speed with visual design styles you may not yet be familiar with.


    Hosts:

    Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Katie Langerman, Design Systems Designer: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman⁠

    47 min
  • 82: Config 2026

    Talks discussed:

    • Out of sync, on purpose: desktop design after mobile won
    • The canvas is not dead ft. Catt Small (Dropbox)
    • The invisible mechanisms in your interfaces ft. Johannes Mutter (mutter.co)
    • Dense by design ft. Matthew Ström-Awn (mu.design)
    • Usernames on Instagram: how a craft fix became an identity crisis
    • Everyone's still eating: building Notion's design system

    Anthony's blog post: https://anthonyhobday.com/blog/20230428


    Hosts:

    Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Katie Langerman, Design Technologist: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

    57 min
  • 81: The Layers model of product design with Jamie Mill

    Anthony and Katie chat with returning guest Jamie Mill about this elements of product design diagram and how he's transferred that concept into an AI agent skill. Check out Jamie's first episode with us, episode 53, for more context on the concepts discussed today.


    Jamie's elements of product design: https://jamiemill.com/blog/2021-07-10-elements-of-product-design/

    Layer's skill: https://layers.jamiemill.com/


    Hosts:

    Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Katie Langerman, Design Technologist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman⁠

    59 min
  • 80: The state of AI for visual design

    Anthony and Katie analyze two versions of an AI generated issue tracking interface.


    Hosts:

    Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Katie Langerman, Design Technologist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman⁠

    42 min
  • 79: Text editing with Michael Aufreiter

    Katie and Anthony are joined by Michael Aufreiter, an expert in all things text editing. It turns out that text editing is quite a complex interaction, enough so that we could have gone on another hour discussing it.


    Check out Michael's work:

    https://svedit.dev
    https://editable.website 


    Hosts:

    Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Katie Langerman, Design Technologist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman⁠

    51 min

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A podcast about the principles and practices of interface design.