Featuring Liz Darlison MBE, this episode we discuss the amazing work of Mesothelioma Uk against the backdrop of the changing generations of those involved in property and construction. We chat about the need for greater awareness and what is needed to stem the relentless tide of asbestos related deaths in the UK.

Featuring: Andrea White, MSc, BSc (Hons), IEng, FIFireE, FCABE, CFIOSH – Founder & MD of AW Fire Ltd.

Andrea brings 20+ years’ experience in fire safety: a professionally-registered fire engineer, third-party accredited fire risk assessor, Fellow of the IFE and CABE, Chartered Fellow of IOSH, fire safety enforcement officer, consultant to insurers, expert witness, and founder of Women Talking Fire.

We start with a summary of the Building Safety Act and summarise its inception before discussing its key elements, Building Safety Case, Building Safety Regulator and the Golden Thread.

The fire regulation landscape is changing rapidly and since we recorded this episode the BSR are recruiting for Fire Engineers, a Select Committee Inquiry into the BSR has started in the House of Lords and the BSR has announced a number of changes including recruiting Andy Roe as non-exec Chair of the BSR. We will be revisiting this hot topic later in the year, so much more to discuss!

From Tick Box to Consequence — the human side of safety.

Health & safety isn’t a side note.

It’s not a form-filling exercise.

It’s not something you “get out of the way” before the real work starts.

It is the real work.

But too often, we treat it like a checklist — not a conversation.

That’s where Comply or Die comes in.

We’re pulling safety out of the tick box and into the real world — where decisions are messy, risks are real, and insight matters more than policy.

Hosted by Ian Gulliford with industry professionals as guests every month, this podcast brings you:

- Real stories from the field

- Unfiltered opinions from decades in the game

- And practical no-nonsense insights

If you manage estates, buildings, teams, or compliance — and you’re ready for something more honest, more useful, and more human — this is for you.

Follow for real talk, not checkbox chatter.