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In tonight’s Concerned Clergy town hall meeting, Indiana State Representative Gregory Porter joins Rev. Tony Alexander to discuss critical bills from the recently concluded legislative session that disproportionately impact Black communities in Indianapolis and across Indiana. The conversation covers the systematic dismantling of democratic processes through House Bill 1033 (judicial appointments that eliminate Black representation on the bench), the Indianapolis Public Schools takeover bill creating state oversight of the predominantly Black school board, Senate Bill 285 criminalizing homelessness, and AES Indiana’s sale to BlackRock private equity amid skyrocketing utility bills. Representative Porter describes this as a “clawing back” of 50-60 years of civil rights progress, with the governor and his allies systematically removing local control and Black leadership through appointments rather than elections. The discussion reveals how these interconnected policies—from judicial appointments to school board oversight to criminalizing poverty—represent a coordinated effort to strip power from Marion County’s majority-minority community while enriching corporate interests at the expense of everyday residents struggling with unaffordable utility bills and housing costs.

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WHAT’S INSIDE

00:01:24 - Opening and Prayer

• Rev. Tony Alexander welcomes listeners and introduces Rep. Gregory Porter

• Prayer for those dealing with war, bombings, and homelessness

• Setting agenda: AES buyout, bills at governor’s desk

00:03:38 - Legislative Session Overview

• One of hardest, busiest short sessions—over 500 bills filed, only 120+ passed

• Started with redistricting bill in December (shot down by Senate)

• Bills that didn’t pass often got stuck into other bills at the end

00:05:42 - Major Problematic Bills

• HB 1033: systematic attack on judicial system

• School board oversight: questioning competency of seven Black women running IPS

• Alzheimer’s bill passed (small victory)

00:06:27 - House Bill 1033: Judicial Appointments Disaster

• Senator Carrasco added amendment removing seats for Marion County Bar Association (Black), Indianapolis Bar, prosecutors, public defenders

• Now governor and Supreme Court appointees choose judges

• Very probable no more Black judges selected for Marion County

00:09:28 - FOP and Judicial Prejudice

• Fraternal Order of Police unhappy with Black judges

• System allows committee to refuse recommending judges for retention

• Rep. Porter calls it “judicial Jim Crow, plantation judiciary”

00:12:29 - Clawing Back Progress

• 50-60 years of progress being systematically reversed

• Everything now appointed by governor or mayor rather than elected

• Past protections requiring African American candidates now gone

00:13:39 - Indianapolis Public Schools Takeover Bill

• Mayor and others (RISE, Stand for Children) wanting mayoral control

• State-appointed overseer for IPS created

• Seven elected Black women school board members now have white male overseer

00:16:08 - IPS Oversight Details

• Described as “plantation overseer” over largest school district in Indiana

• School board no longer controls its own operations

• High school superintendent appointed to oversee experienced Black women educators

00:20:03 - Charter Schools and Asset Stripping

• Concern about charter expansion and IPS asset transfers

• IPS has significant debt obligations and valuable assets

• Fear of privatization scheme transferring public buildings to charter operators

00:24:07 - AES Indiana Sale to BlackRock

• AES bought by private equity consortium including BlackRock

• Bills increased 80-125% for many customers

• Timing suspicious: rate increases announced Monday, then buyout approved

00:27:12 - Bills on Governor’s Desk

• Bills must be signed within 10 days or become law without signature

• Can also veto bills

• Many problematic bills pending governor’s action

00:29:27 - Early Voting Restriction Bill (Died)

• Would have cut early voting from 28 days to 16 days

• Bill died in final days after pushback

• Small victory worth celebrating

00:30:41 - Senate Bill 285: Criminalizing Homelessness

• Vilifies homeless people, gives law enforcement citation authority they don’t want

• Doesn’t reduce homelessness—just hides it

• Driven by legislators from outside Indianapolis

00:31:10 - Lugar Plaza Redesignation

• Plaza outside City-County Building now designated as park

• Dusk-to-dawn restrictions, no alcohol allowed

• Targets unhoused neighbors seeking security

00:33:23 - Downtown Safety Reality

• Downtown statistically safest area in Marion County

• Conventions, NFL Combine, Final Fours all come downtown

• Homelessness is visibility issue, not safety threat

00:36:15 - Local Control Being Stripped

• State legislators from outside Indianapolis making city decisions

• Attacking local autonomy and home rule

• Pattern of state overriding local control

00:40:13 - AES Sale and Utility Rate Crisis

• Buyout timing connected to rate increases—makes portfolio look good at $15/share

• IURC task force studying but no follow-through from administration

• Brand new homes seeing bills jump from $200 to $500

00:45:01 - Data Centers and Tax Breaks

• Data centers haven’t come online yet, can’t blame for current rates

• State giving 50-year tax breaks (cheap land, formerly cheap electricity)

• Need community benefit packages from data centers

00:47:13 - AES Sale Process Not Complete

• $33 billion acquisition needs federal approval

• One investment company from outside the country

• Private equity firms squeeze assets for profit, may resell later

00:48:28 - HB 1343: Militarizing Indiana National Guard

• Buried in Veterans Bill, allows Guard to be militarized like in D.C.

• Can help ICE operations (ICE moved to 96th & Meridian in Hamilton County)

• Governor aligned “lock, stock, and barrel” with current president

00:50:11 - Senate Bill 76: Immigration Enforcement in Schools

• Law enforcement can enter schools and universities

• Can hold someone 48 hours if they “feel” person is undocumented

• Targeting children and students, causing trauma

00:51:25 - Cell Phone Ban in Schools

• Kids can’t have cell phones during school hours

• Educator saying “cell phones down, GPA up”

• May help learning environment and declining test scores

00:52:22 - Senate Bill 27: Chicago Bears Stadium Deal

• Passed in last hours, governor already signed—Bears to Hammond by 2033

• $5-6 billion investment with stadium, convention center in Gary

• State on hook for bonds, gentrification concerns, Illinois fighting back

00:55:09 - Caller Guy: “The Big Squeeze”

• Everything being squeezed on the people from multiple directions

• Recommends book “Technocracy Rising” by Patrick Wood

• Big money people squeezing utilities, agriculture worldwide to get more money

00:56:20 - Closing and Call to Action

• Work not over even though session ended—organize, advocate year-round

• Black Caucus travels state educating people on what transpired

• Get registered to vote, get educated, get to the polls—365-day process

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As Indiana's legislative session ends, Reverends Alexander and Greene discuss major losses including SB 285 (criminalizing homelessness with Class C misdemeanor and $500 fine) and HB 1423 (IPS takeover by appointed board). They emphasize that homelessness is primarily a housing issue, not a criminal one, noting the largest homeless demographic in Indiana is Black women with children who work but can't afford rent. The hosts criticize the mean-spirited, punitive approach that jails people who can't post bail while spending money to house Chicago Bears but not homeless Hoosiers, and note the bill follows model legislation from conservative think tanks like Cicero Institute. On the IPS takeover, they explain the nine-member appointed board (three from IPS, three from charter board, three mayoral picks) transfers power from democratically-elected officials to privatization interests, with nothing in the bill about academic performance—it's about money and power. They warn this model threatens all public schools statewide through language in the bill, compare it to ALEC-style legislation, and promote a "funeral for IPS" event. Throughout, hosts stress these policies lack compassion, serve monied interests over people, and represent the state's loss of moral direction.

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

3:57 - OPENING: LEGISLATIVE SESSION ENDING- At tail end of Indiana legislative session, headed to governor's desk- "Way it looks, we're going to have a lot of losses" but hoping for some wins- Inviting calls at 317-480-1310 to discuss bills6:19 - SB 285: CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS- Most disheartening bill, reflects "mean-spirited nature" of recent statehouse actions- Makes being homeless a Class C misdemeanor with fine—not a solution when people are already financially struggling- Homelessness is a housing issue, need services and compassion not punishment8:02 - MODEL LEGISLATION FROM CICERO INSTITUTE- SB 285 borrowed from other states, led by Cicero Institute think tank- Part of pattern of conservative groups drafting legislation state-to-state- Similar to ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) model14:00 - HOUSING VS. PUNISHMENT APPROACH- Need to focus on getting people housed, not criminalizing them- Arresting homeless and jailing them costs money (housing and feeding in jail) while claiming no money for actual housing- Creates cycle: misdemeanor record makes it harder to get job, apartment, stability17:45 - FACE OF HOMELESSNESS IN INDIANA- Largest homeless group in Indiana: Black women with children- These are working mothers who don't make enough to keep up with rent- People fall on hard times and get caught in struggle, not the stereotype of "strung out" or "don't want to work"20:05 - MISPLACED PRIORITIES- State has money to bring in Chicago Bears but punitive toward homeless Hoosiers- "For certain projects, money ain't an issue. But for other things, we say we don't have money"- Can find money quickly for some priorities but not for helping people in need24:09 - CYCLE OF POVERTY AND INCARCERATION- Jail system gets paid per inmate—is that the solution?- After jail, person has criminal record hanging over them for employment and housing- Makes it even harder to get on feet and pay bills25:00 - STREETS TO HOME INITIATIVE- Positive alternative providing actual housing and wraparound services- Faith communities providing "moving kits" (plates, glasses, trash cans, basic needs)- Service providers help with life skills (balancing checkbook, healthcare, etc.)27:10 - KEEPING PEOPLE HOUSED LONG-TERM- Goal is stability, not just getting someone in apartment for three months- Need to address underlying issues (may have lost birth certificate, other documents needed for jobs)- Service providers walk beside people through multiple steps to achieve lasting stability32:01 - HB 1423: IPS TAKEOVER- Elected IPS school board loses power to nine-member appointed board- Trump said "DEI was gone, SNAP was gone"—well IPS is gone too in Indianapolis- "Funeral for IPS" event tomorrow 4pm at Albertson's Mortuary, 5020 East 16th Street33:25 - COMPOSITION AND IMPLICATIONS OF APPOINTED BOARD- Three from IPS board, three from charter board, three mayoral appointees- Moves from democratically-elected to appointed positions—"complete death of IPS as we know it"- Nothing in HB 1423 about academic performance—it's about money, power, and privatization35:34 - THREAT TO ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND ALEC MODEL- Language in bill affects all public schools including townships statewide- Charter school movement started in New Orleans, brought to Indiana following ALEC-style pattern- Conservative groups authoring bills that move state to state with similar language38:05 - POWER DYNAMICS AND FINANCIAL INTERESTS OF APPOINTED BOARD- What happens to remaining IPS board members not selected? Will they try to please mayor to get picked?- Expiring referendum IPS needs—only appointed board can pursue it, not elected board. If they don't or it fails, "that's the death of IPS"- Only three of nine are IPS people; six are charter/mayoral picks. If objective is closing schools, "this is a good way to get it done"40:44 - GENTRIFICATION AND DEVELOPER INTERESTS- Board must be in place by March 31st—community should reach out to mayor about selections- Concern about "mayor friendly" appointments (city councilors, former mayor Bart Peterson) rather than genuine representation- "I think it's really about dollars and gentrification of neighborhoods, selling property and developers getting property for low prices"46:41 - HB 1033: JUDICIAL APPOINTMENTS ATTACKING BLACK INPUT- Marion County already doesn't elect own judges—committee does- Now replacing places where Black people give input with governor appointees- "Our democracy is under attack across the board"47:33 - SYSTEMIC ATTACK ON BLACK DEMOCRATIC POWER- Don't elect judges—appointed group decides- Trying to remove Black voices from judicial selection board- IPS has elected board of all Black women, being replaced with mayor-appointed board48:26 - BROADER PATTERN OF DISENFRANCHISEMENT- Redistricting targeted Andre Carson and Frank Mrvan to dilute Black voting power- "We are under attack. Our democracy is under attack"- "These things are not even a coincidence"49:01 - CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS TARGETS BLACK COMMUNITY- 60% of homeless people in Indiana are Black- Criminalizing homelessness means Black people getting fines and misdemeanors- "Is it just a coincidence? The answer to that is no way"49:34 - GOVERNOR BRAUN FOLLOWS TRUMP ON DEI- Governor going along with president eliminating DEI- Systemically attacking Black representation: criminalizing homelessness (60% Black), judicial appointments, IPS takeover- Will appoint "two or three people of color" but "of our color, not of our kind"—token appointments to serve mayor's agenda51:00 - WIN: EARLY VOTING BILL DEFEATED- Bill to reduce early voting from 28 days to 16 days appears defeated- Kudos to everyone who participated in that fight- Still must be careful as "language can just jump in something" at last minute55:35 - CLOSING THEMES- Loss of compassion and moral direction in Indiana policy- Serving monied interests over people in need- Call for community resistance and attending IPS funeral event

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The Concerned Clergy hosts dedicate this episode to honoring Reverend Jesse Jackson, who recently passed away, opening with his iconic "I Understand" speech about growing up poor. The show covers critical legislative battles in Congress like the SAVE Act (requiring extensive documentation to vote, disproportionately affecting women and minorities) and in the Indiana Statehouse like SB 285 (criminalizing homelessness with $500 fines). Reverends Alexander and Greene emphasize making voting plans for the May primary given expected intimidation tactics including potential ICE and National Guard presence at polls. A significant portion addresses immigration rhetoric versus reality, with callers debating whether immigrants drain resources, while hosts counter with facts about detention costs, tax contributions, and indigenous peoples' prior claim to the land. The episode examines Christian nationalism's hypocrisy, questioning how self-proclaimed Christians can support policies harming vulnerable populations while supporting Epstein-connected individuals. Throughout, the hosts stress moral courage in speaking truth to power, the importance of Reverend Jackson's legacy in paving the way for Obama's presidency, and the need for community solidarity in resisting oppressive legislation during Black History Month.

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

0:48 - OPENING: REVEREND JESSE JACKSON TRIBUTE & LEGISLATIVE THREATS- Opens with Jackson's "I Understand" speech about growing up poor without insurance, in three-room house with outdoor bathroom- Jackson's presidential runs paved way for Obama, contributed immeasurably to Black history and people struggling everywhere- Indiana legislature trying to take women back to pre-1920 (voting) and pre-1974 (couldn't open bank accounts)4:52 - THE SAVE ACT: VOTER SUPPRESSION LEGISLATION- SAVE Act would disenfranchise not just Black folks but many voters by requiring extensive documentation- Women who changed names through marriage may struggle to provide all required documents (birth certificates, marriage certificates, etc.)- Bill represents systematic attempt to roll back voting rights and make voting nearly impossible for marginalized communities10:00 - IMPACT ON WOMEN & FAMILIES- Women historically couldn't vote until 1920, couldn't open bank accounts until 1974- Name changes through marriage create documentation barriers under SAVE Act requirements- Moving state to state makes obtaining required historical documents even more difficult15:01 - VOTING STRATEGY: MAKE A PLAN FOR MAY PRIMARY- Don't wait for general election - vote in May primary with a clear plan- Early vote or request absentee ballot now to avoid Election Day chaos- Expect ICE presence, National Guard, multiple hoops to jump through at polling sites16:11 - DON'T VOTE ALONE CAMPAIGN- MADVoters and other organizations pushing "don't vote alone" strategy- Take friend or family member as witness to your voting experience- Going with others provides safety and documentation of any intimidation or irregularities17:35 - SB 285: CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS- Bill passed committee 8-5 (four Democrats and one Republican voted against)- Makes it Class C misdemeanor to be homeless on streets, up to $500 fine- Moving to governor's desk, expected to take effect July 1st if signed28:09 - CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM'S HYPOCRISY- Caller asks how self-proclaimed Christians can support anti-Christian policies- Ministers need to bring moral voice to Capitol, shine light on darkness- Politicians claim Christianity while proposing legislation that harms vulnerable people, including Epstein connections30:15 - IMMIGRATION: RHETORIC VS. REALITY- Trump narrative claims immigrants taking money, jobs, housing, benefits- Reality: Building detention camps costs money, staffing costs money, housing/healthcare/food costs money- 73% of people in ICE detention have no criminal records according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Bureau statistics35:05 - IMMIGRATION STATISTICS & FACTS- Most detainees (73%) have no criminal record despite rhetoric about "criminals"- Detention system is massive expense while claiming immigrants drain resources- Contradiction between claims and actual government spending reveals true agenda38:14 - CALLER: "MILLIONS CROSSING BORDER"- Caller claims millions crossing border illegally every month based on TV- Hosts explain legal ways to cross border exist, asylum seekers have rights- Caller insists "they" weren't coming legally, revealing racialized assumptions40:05 - CALLER: "THEY'RE GETTING OUR FUNDING"- Caller claims immigrants getting funding for babies and medical care Americans deserve- Says Black ancestors paid and died to build country, "these people just walked over"- Hosts challenge zero-sum framing and remind Indigenous people are true original inhabitants45:07 - RESPONSE TO CALLER: INDIGENOUS LAND & TAX FACTS- Europeans are the actual interlopers, Indigenous peoples were here first- Immigrants pay taxes into system but don't collect Social Security benefits- Facts contradict narrative that immigrants drain resources without contributing49:53 - IMMIGRANTS PAY TAXES WITHOUT COLLECTING BENEFITS- Documented fact: Immigrants pay into Social Security without collecting- Pay sales tax, property tax (directly or through rent), income tax- Contribute billions to system they cannot access, opposite of draining resources52:17 - MORAL VALUES IN LEADERSHIP- Importance of having leaders with actual moral values versus those who claim them- Need for accountability and truth-telling in face of hypocrisy- Community must hold elected officials to ethical standards54:32 - CLOSING: JACKSON LEGACY & LOCAL RESPONSE- Disappointment with local media/leadership response to Jackson's passing- Working on clips and greetings from family members to honor his legacy- Jackson is icon who deserves better recognition from Indianapolis community57:26 - FINAL THOUGHTS & CALL TO ACTION- Continue honoring Jackson's work for justice and equality- Stay engaged with legislative fights and voting rights protection- Community solidarity essential in resisting oppressive policies

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Reverend Tony Alexander and Pastor David W. Green Sr. open with a critical discussion of Attorney General Pam Bondi's congressional testimony, highlighting the administration's disrespect toward lawmakers and Epstein victims. The hosts connect this behavior to broader themes of eroding democratic norms, from Trump's racist depiction of the Obamas to the lack of accountability for leadership misconduct. They examine the escalating foreclosure crisis (32% higher year-over-year) and its connection to rising homelessness, criticizing criminalization bills that punish poverty rather than addressing root causes. The conversation shifts to data center development across Indiana, including Meta's LEAP project announcement in Lebanon, analyzing wastewater concerns, infrastructure deals already in place, and questions about financial sustainability. The episode concludes with a discussion of IPS school board governance, opposing mayoral control and warning that appointed boards will serve developers' interests rather than children's education, potentially selling prime school properties for a dollar to build data centers.

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TOPICS DISCUSSED:0:10:25 - PAM BONDI CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY- Attorney General Bondi refuses to apologize to Epstein survivors for DOJ's release of victim information- Disrespectful treatment of congresswoman during questioning, calling it "theatrics" and "gutter" behavior- Sets tone from top leadership showing lack of respect for fellow elected officials0:14:44 - EROSION OF PRESIDENTIAL DECORUM- Trump posted image depicting Obamas as monkeys with no accountability- Previous era expected presidents to set standards and be examples for young people- Current administration demonstrates "any and everything goes" with no consequences- Double standard: they demand respect but won't give it0:18:20 - YOUNG PEOPLE WATCHING & LEARNING- Young men watching Trump with envy, emulating disrespectful behavior- Leadership modeling that you can say/do anything without consequences- Generational impact of normalized disrespect and lack of accountability0:28:40 - LACK OF PUBLIC OUTRAGE- Expecting massive crowds demanding accountability - not materializing- Where are calls for resignation over racist behavior toward Obama?- Media giving casual coverage: "he probably shouldn't have done that" then moving on- Should be broad coalition (white and Black) saying "enough is enough"0:31:46 - EPSTEIN VICTIMS & SEX TRAFFICKING- Indianapolis sex trafficking ring broken up this week- Children still being victimized even if not at Epstein's level- Republicans and others disappointingly ignoring victims at hearing- Need to stand up for vulnerable children0:39:27 - CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS- Trump brought National Guard to D.C. to "get rid of homeless" - just moved them elsewhere- Indiana Senate bill criminalizing homelessness targeting Marion County/downtown- Fines and jail time for being poor creates criminal records- "There must be no line" - what would trigger impeachment or removal anymore?0:42:18 - FORECLOSURE CRISIS & CONNECTING THE DOTS- U.S. foreclosure rates up 32% year-over-year (every month increasing)- Many homeowners have jobs but can't keep up with rising costs- Homeowners insurance, utilities, property taxes, healthcare forcing impossible choices- Seniors who built communities now struggling after doing everything right0:46:36 - HOUSING CRISIS RIPPLE EFFECTS- More foreclosures → more homeless people- More empty homes → more crime- Homes sold to big conglomerates not vested in community- Then home prices go up, rents go up- "We're trying to connect these dots for y'all"0:49:41 - DATA CENTERS & HOUSE BILL 1333- HB 1333 would take away local control for data center rezoning- Bill died for now but language could pop back up before session ends- Every corner of Indianapolis and Indiana dealing with data center development0:50:48 - META DATA CENTER ANNOUNCEMENT- Governor Braun announced Meta data center at LEAP project in Lebanon- Citizens Energy Group meeting about water supply for Eli Lilly and Meta projects- Wastewater from data centers returns to Eagle Creek with different toxics- Data centers release different chemicals into water - community needs answers0:51:18 - DATA CENTER PROLIFERATION- Locations: Shelbyville, Kokomo, Pike (withdrawn but not totally), Brightwood, east side- "Everywhere we drive we'll be hitting a data center"- Question: Will all of them make it? What happens to failed buildings?- Where's money coming from for land, marketing, community meetings?0:54:27 - INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY IN PLACE- Deals for substations and power already negotiated months ago- Infrastructure separate from data centers themselves - "two different fights"- Makes it easier for data centers to take advantage of tax breaks- Companies not rolling the dice - infrastructure investment signals confidence0:59:30 - IPS SCHOOL BOARD GOVERNANCE- Opposition to mayoral control of IPS board (always position, not personal to current mayor)- People should elect board members, not have mayor appointments- Already lost right to elect judges, shouldn't lose school board elections too- African Americans across sectors (board members, faith community, small business) oppose it1:00:40 - RHETORIC ABOUT BLACK COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT- Critics claim lack of Black opposition means "you don't care about children"- Unfair characterization - people working jobs, can't attend daytime statehouse meetings- City council meetings at night show strong Black attendance- Can't sacrifice keeping roof overhead to attend daytime legislative sessions1:02:05 - REAL CAUSES OF IPS CHALLENGES- Wasn't elected board that created current situation- State legislation and appointed superintendents "carrying water" for certain agendas- Elected board provided diversity of thought and education on issues like charter schools- Mayor-controlled board will only please one person, like Pam Bondi answering only to Trump1:03:12 - PROPERTY SELL-OFF CONCERNS- IPS owns significant prime real estate inside 465- Schools need to close, property will go to developers for $1- Could sell for millions and invest in children (school lunches, summer programs)- Instead developers get it cheap - "maybe building a data center on it"- "Connect the dots, people"

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Reverend Tony Alexander and Pastor David W. Greene Sr. discuss Pastor Greene’s candidacy for Indiana State Senate District 29 and current threats to democracy and voter access. The show opens with Pastor Greene explaining the chaos surrounding candidate filings after Secretary of State Diego Morales’s office provided incorrect instructions to notaries, forcing multiple candidates statewide to refile their CAN-2 forms. Greene successfully refiled after initially being told his paperwork was invalid due to notary issues that were the state’s fault, not his.

The conversation shifts to voter suppression tactics, drawing parallels between ICE’s presence in Minneapolis (where federal forces demanded voter rolls as a condition for withdrawal) and Indiana’s decision to share voter information with the federal government. Alexander and Greene warn that proposals to station ICE agents at polling places represent an unconstitutional voter intimidation strategy targeting Democratic-leaning minority communities, similar to how local law enforcement is already prohibited from such activities.

Pastor Greene outlines his platform centered on affordability and community advocacy. His key issues include fighting data centers and the LEAP water project (with an upcoming meeting at New Augusta Middle School), addressing the housing and homelessness crisis, combating rising costs forcing seniors from their homes, and tackling the childcare access crisis as facilities close statewide. Representing Wayne Township and Pike Township (extending to the Hendricks County border near Brownsburg and Avon), Greene emphasizes he’s not a professional politician but a community advocate responding to people’s pain. He praises outgoing Senator JD Ford’s work and stresses the urgency of maintaining the seat in Democratic hands, as Republicans currently hold a 40-10 supermajority in the Indiana Senate.

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0:00:53 - Introduction & Opening Prayer

- Hosts: Rev. Tony Alexander and Pastor David W. Greene Sr.

- Broadcasting from Praise Indy IndyGo Studios

- Opening prayer for leaders, homeless community, and listeners

0:03:55 - Candidate Filing Chaos: Secretary of State Problems

- Pastor Greene running for Indiana State Senate District 29

- Forced to refile CAN-2 form due to Secretary of State office errors

- Notaries given incorrect instructions by Morales’s administration

- Multiple candidates statewide affected (Hamilton County, Marion County, others)

- Greene’s original filing valid but had to refile anyway

- Attorney involvement and concerns about deliberate obstacles

- Pattern of state offices creating barriers to Democratic candidates

0:14:03 - Voter Suppression: ICE, Voter Rolls, and Minneapolis Parallels

- Indiana already shared voter information with federal government (it was optional, state chose to do it)

- ICE in Minneapolis demanded voter rolls as condition for troop withdrawal

- Federal demands had nothing to do with immigrants - purely about election control

- ICE presence designed to target Democratic-heavy locations

- Trump administration wants Republican Party to control elections

- Indiana has lowest voter turnout in nation - fraud claims are fabrication

0:17:05 - ICE at Polling Places: Unconstitutional Intimidation

- Proposals to station ICE agents at voting centers

- Local law enforcement already prohibited from polling place presence

- ICE presence would deter minorities, people with records, anyone afraid of federal agents

- Deliberate strategy to suppress Democratic turnout

- Creating hoops and obstacles to discourage civic participation

0:28:30 - Caller Discussion: Filing Process and Campaign Support

- Caller asks about filing experience and campaign

- Discussion of Greene’s community advocacy background

- Encouragement for campaign volunteers and support

0:40:22 - Why Pastor Greene Is Running: Platform and Priorities

- Community doesn’t have a voice - things done TO community, not WITH community

- Advocacy work addressing people’s pain and struggles

- AFFORDABILITY as central theme:

* Seniors forced from homes due to insurance, mortgage, utility cost increases

* Can’t choose between healthcare and housing

* Child care crisis: facilities closing statewide, costs forcing parents to stay home

* Housing and homelessness: stable housing creates stable communities

- Eagle Creek/LEAP water project concerns

- Upcoming meeting: Tuesday 6:30pm at New Augusta Middle School

- Not a professional politician - running with heart of community

0:44:00 - Senate District 29 Boundaries

- Wayne Township and Pike Township in Marion County

- Extends to Hendricks County border (before Brownsburg/Avon)

- Raceway area included

- JD Ford’s current seat (Ford running for Congress)

0:46:30 - Campaign Strategy and November Stakes

- Currently 40 Republican senators, 10 Democratic senators

- Must not lose ground - goal is 12-13 Democratic seats

- District 29 key battleground (Republican Ruckelhaus likely opponent)

- Greene praises JD Ford’s work overcoming gerrymandering

- Need to continue Ford’s advocacy legacy

0:55:33 - Healthcare Costs Discussion

- Prescription medication prices affecting all demographics

- Healthcare deserves full dedicated episode

- Promise to revisit topic soon

0:56:04 - Campaign Contact Information & Closing

- Website: greene4hoosiers.com

- Email: [email protected]

- Visit site for priorities and bio

- Proven community leader ready to do work together

- “Don’t be mean - vote for Greene”

- Warning: Mean-spirited legislation coming July 1st

- Promise to have legislators discuss legislative session pain after it concludes

- Next show: Live 7pm next Wednesday; on PIN afterward

Hosts Pastor David W. Green Sr. and Reverend Tony Alexander discuss the appointment of Indianapolis’s first female police chief, Tanya Terry, and the challenges she faces amid state legislative efforts to undermine local police oversight and control. The conversation centers on proposed legislation that would transfer downtown policing from IMPD to state police, eliminate the civilian General Orders Board, criminalize homelessness, and increase bail requirements. Rev. Alexander and Pastor Greene connect these local concerns to the Minneapolis ICE shooting incidents, emphasizing the importance of citizen documentation and transparency in holding law enforcement accountable. They also announce upcoming expansion plans including a podcast on the Progressive Indiana Network and remind listeners about primary season candidate awareness.

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0:00:00 - Opening & Program Information

- Concerned Clergy membership information (text JOINCCI to 317-588-0157)

- Saturday meetings at 9 AM announcement

- Call-in number: 317-480-1310

0:01:22 - Upcoming Podcast & Media Expansion

- Announcement of new podcast launching soon

- Partnership with Progressive Indiana Network via Substack

- Platform expansion plans

0:02:20 - Primary Season Reminder

- Encouragement to pay attention to candidates on the ballot

- Promise to share candidate information throughout primary season

0:02:46 - Opening Prayer

- Prayer for Minneapolis situation

- Prayer for leaders at national, state, and local levels

0:03:50 - New Police Chief Tanya Terry

- Mayor Hogsett’s appointment of Indianapolis’s first female police chief

- Previous Chief Chris Bailey elevated to deputy chief of staff

- Historic nature of the appointment

0:04:23 - Challenges Facing New Chief

- Proposed legislation on bail increases

- Changes to General Orders Board

- State taking away downtown policing from IMPD

- ICE operations increasing in Indianapolis

0:05:40 - Building Community Trust

- Need for relationship between chief and community

- Balancing FOP (Fraternal Order of Police) relationships with community needs

- Chief must navigate both police union and community interests

0:10:38 - General Orders Board Under Attack

- State legislators proposing elimination of civilian oversight board

- Indianapolis previously recognized for strong community-police relationship

- Challenge of maintaining community involvement if board is eliminated

0:11:35 - FOP vs. Community Accountability

- FOP resistance to citizen involvement in police oversight

- Community desire for justice and accountability

- Contrast between union protection and community needs

0:12:42 - Minneapolis Connection

- Discussion of justice and investigation needs

- Reference to Minneapolis incidents as example

0:14:08 - State Legislative Attack on Marion County

- Pattern of state legislature targeting Marion County specifically

- Downtown police district creation proposal (Senate Bill 185)

- State police would control downtown area instead of IMPD

0:15:51 - Homeless Criminalization Bill (SB 285)

- Bill criminalizing homelessness passing Senate

- Targeting Marion County homeless population specifically

- Connection to downtown police district plan

0:16:33 - Jurisdictional Confusion

- Problems created by having state police downtown and IMPD elsewhere

- Boundary disputes and “passing the buck” on responsibility

- Chaos from having two different law enforcement philosophies in same area

0:18:32 - Local Control vs. State Interference

- State legislators from outside Marion County making local decisions

- Call for people to run for local office if they want to fix local issues

- Criticism of outsiders trying to control Indianapolis

0:24:29 - ICE Operations in Indianapolis

- ICE presence increasing in numbers

- Potential conflicts with new chief’s approach

- Connection to state police downtown plan

0:26:59 - ICE Detention Facility North of Kokomo

- Recently announced ICE detention facility location

- Federal bill includes five courtrooms for immigration cases

- Marion County Sheriff’s involvement with ICE

0:28:01 - Different Policing Philosophies on Immigration

- Previous Chief Bailey’s position: IMPD won’t do ICE’s job

- State police have different approach - align with federal government

- Creates problems with split jurisdiction downtown

0:29:19 - Minneapolis ICE Shootings - Federal Accountability

- Minneapolis chief and leaders facing investigation for speaking out

- Use of investigation as intimidation tool against local leaders

- Warning about federal government’s tactics

0:32:31 - Media Control & Narrative Management

- Trump administration buying up media stations

- Removing reporters who don’t align with preferred narrative

- Control of communications to control the story

0:33:34 - Community Safety Networks

- Need for neighbors to watch out for each other

- Importance of reporting suspicious ICE-related activity

- Community vigilance and mutual aid

0:36:37 - Minneapolis Shooting Details

- Federal government blocked local and state law enforcement from scene

- Took car, weapon, people, body - all evidence

- Only citizen documentation revealed the truth

0:39:19 - Indiana Law Restricting Police Recording (2025)

- New law requiring distance when filming police with cell phones

- Designed to prevent close-up documentation like in Minneapolis

- Protects law enforcement narrative control

0:39:46 - Importance of Transparency & Documentation

- Body cameras and citizen recordings essential for truth

- Public trust requires transparency

- Video evidence prevents false narratives about victims

0:41:17 - Video as Path to Justice

- Only way families get justice is through documentation

- Minneapolis example: federal government controlled all evidence

- Citizen footage contradicted official story

0:45:24 - Second Minneapolis Victim Discussion

- Similar pattern: federal narrative contradicted by citizen video

- Importance of multiple camera angles

- Frame-by-frame analysis revealing truth

0:51:47 - News Organizations Analyzing Footage

- Multiple news outlets dissecting citizen footage

- Frame-by-frame and second-by-second analysis

- Information wouldn’t exist without citizen documentation

0:52:26 - Media Literacy & Truth

- Importance of knowing where information comes from

- Question: Can you trust your information sources?

- Federal law enforcement credibility in question

0:52:55 - Validating Information Sources

- Need to validate resources and where information originates

- President’s group buying stations and controlling news

- Reporters being removed for not aligning with narrative

0:53:20 - Communications Control Strategy

- Controlling communications to control the narrative

- Preventing objective opinions

- Social media algorithms being manipulated

0:54:15 - Concerned Clergy’s Information Mission

- Commitment to providing trustworthy information

- Not running from tough issues but engaging them

- Willingness to have difficult discussions even when disagreement exists

0:56:19 - Podcast Launch Details (Reprise)

- Progressive Indiana Network partnership

- Substack platform

- Sharing truth and addressing real issues

0:58:12 - Closing Remarks

- Stay warm and safe

- Be alert for neighbors and unwanted activities

- Call the hotline number if you see suspicious ICE activity

- Reminder to tune in next week