Karen talks about the life of one of America's first double agents, James Armistead.  Chuck appreciates the French.

Karen talks about the amazing spy Virginia “Dindy” Hall and her fake leg Cuthbert. Chuck admits he knows nothing about women. Karen agrees.

Chuck and Karen talk PACs and Dark Money. As usual, Chuck tries to steal the last word and Karen sighs again. Several times.

Karen tells the story of Patriot spy Hercules Mulligan. Chuck wants a cool name like Hercules and mocks Nathan Hale.

Karen tells the story of incredible WWII spy Nancy Wake. Chuck is in love. AGAIN!

Show notes: Chuck and Karen talk about the history of brib-we mean lobbying . Karen can barely get it together to start the show, and Chuck doesn’t really know what is going on

Karen tells the story of famous author and spy Roald Dahl. Chuck ruminates.

Chuck and Karen finish up their episode on Presidents and special investigations. Chuck makes Karen want to scream. Which is nothing new.

Karen tells the tale of WW2 spy Claire "High Pockets" Phillips.  Chuck like cookies.

Chuck plays Karen’s new game and they both go through some of history’s presidential special investigations and laugh at the interesting names within. Because they are basically twelve. And cannot stop giggling over the word heinie.