This special episode of On TRAC(k) was recorded in person in New York City during the 2025 Knowledge Graph Conference. OriginTrail founders Branimir Rakic, Žiga Drev and Tomaž Levak are joined by internet pioneer Dr. Bob Metcalfe and host Jonathan DeYoung, and together they break down AI agents, network effects, real-world use cases for OriginTrail, and how this all fits into the “Metcalfe Convergence Phase.”

On TRAC(k) brings you all the latest and juiciest developments from the OriginTrail ecosystem and the Decentralized Knowledge Graph, aka the DKG. This episode of On TRAC(k) was hosted and edited by Jonathan DeYoung.

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Episode chapters:

(00:00:00) Intro to the On TRAC(k) podcast and this month’s episode
(00:08:34) What we got right and wrong when we built the internet
(00:11:08) Unpacking the Metcalfe Convergence Phase
(00:14:57) Whatever happened to blockchain as a buzzword?
(00:21:05) How the DKG solves AI-related issues
(00:26:38) The convergence between data and AI training
(00:30:28) How bad knowledge is handled in the DKG
(00:33:15) Tackling real-world problems in supply chains and online content
(00:40:45) How to get involved with DKGcon 2025
(00:42:45) When will everyday people benefit from the DKG?
(00:46:00) Surprises with AI agents and OriginTrail