In this conversation, Ange “GnomeAngel” Wilson interviews fabric designer Pam Morgan, also known as Pammie Jane. The conversation is filled with humour and personal anecdotes. In this conversation, Ange and Pam discuss their favorite quilting projects, including the Spooky Sampler quilt and a bag with a girl ghost design. They also talk about fabric design and the challenges of balancing creativity and energy. They share their experiences with burnout and the importance of asking for help. The conversation touches on the realities of running a business and the need for transparency in the industry. They also discuss their love for wildlife and gardening.