This episode is about what I’ve learned, and what I wish I had known—about relationships, especially trying to navigate love in spaces that weren’t necessarily designed with us in mind.

In this episode, I sit down with my friend Robert while in Dallas, Texas.

We talk about dating, relationships, and what it means to choose peace at this stage in life.

It’s an honest conversation about where we are, what we’ve learned, and what we’re no longer willing to carry

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In this solo episode, I reflect on my lived experience as a Black American and share some thoughts about how this country often reacts when Black women become visible and influential voices in public life, particularly in politics.

In this solo episode, I reflect on a decade of quiet loneliness, the kind that comes with shedding old versions of yourself and stepping into midlife.

This is a late-night conversation about visibility, protection, and what it means to begin taking up space again.

A Chat with Two Jonathans

In the first episode of Conversations on the Road, I'm introducing the heart behind the show. This podcast is about reflection, growth, and the conversations we carry with us as we move through life.

To break the ice and begin this journey, my dear friend Jonathan Swisher joins me for an honest and easy conversation. We've known each other for years, and it felt right to start here....with familiarity, laughter, and real connection.

This is where the road begins.