Conversations with a Chiropractor

When a storm tore part of the roof from Dr. Amanda Wilson's home in Hawaii, it prompted a question she could no longer put aside: was she building the life she actually wanted?

Dr. Stephanie Wautier welcomes orthodontist, educator, and StraightSmile Solutions founder Dr. Amanda Wilson for a candid conversation about burnout, motherhood, faith, neurodivergence, and finding another way to use your gifts.

Amanda shares how moving to Hawaii to raise her children pushed her toward virtual consulting and a different kind of professional life. She reflects on her early involvement with SmileDirectClub, the distance between her original intentions and the direction the company eventually took, and why she began sharing her knowledge through thousands of educational YouTube videos.

They also discuss Amanda's experience of recognizing her neurodivergence later in life. Understanding herself more clearly has helped her identify the work she enjoys, set boundaries, and imagine a future practice designed around children's needs.

The conversation then turns to Amanda's interest in jaw development, breathing, tongue mobility, and earlier evaluation of children. Stephanie and Amanda share personal and family experiences, discuss the difficulty of finding coordinated care, and consider what collaboration among dental and medical professionals could look like. Amanda also points parents toward a downloadable guide they can bring to a dental appointment.

Through every part of the conversation runs the same question: how do you keep doing meaningful work while making room for the person you are becoming?

In This Episode

• Recognizing professional and personal burnout • Rebuilding after a storm and reconsidering everyday choices • Faith, purpose, and decision-making in business • Amanda's account of her early involvement with SmileDirectClub • Sharing professional knowledge through accessible online education • Motherhood, competitive swimming, and choosing a flexible career • Late recognition of neurodivergence and working more authentically • Questions about children's breathing, sleep, tongue mobility, and orthodontic evaluation • The cost and complexity of coordinating care across specialties • Creating another professional chapter beyond traditional clinical practice

Connect with Dr. Amanda Wilson

StraightSmile Solutions: https://www.straightsmilesolutions.com/

Parent and patient resources, including the downloadable appointment guide: https://www.straightsmilesolutions.com/services/for-parents-coming-soon/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQDILf1sP5qR4p78673bzA/videos

StraightSmile Solutions provides professional education and consulting for dental providers. Its parent resources are educational; the company does not offer individual patient case reviews through this service.

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A Note on the Conversation

This episode shares personal experiences and professional opinions, including discussion of approaches whose evidence and clinical acceptance vary. Associations among sleep, breathing, and behavior do not establish that orthodontic treatment, tongue-tie procedures, or chiropractic care will resolve those concerns. Children's growth and treatment needs vary; there is no universal treatment deadline. Consult appropriately qualified dental and medical professionals for individualized assessment. This conversation is not medical or dental advice.

Chapters

00:00 Opening 01:00 When losing a roof raises bigger questions 02:09 From braces and wires to a changing profession 02:59 Building a career beyond the traditional practice 04:24 Amanda's perspective on the jaw, neck, and airway 06:10 Two kinds of burnout and a search for direction 08:12 Making room for a different life 09:57 Ad Break 10:28 SmileDirectClub: Amanda tells her side 15:01 Turning professional knowledge into a public resource 17:47 Motherhood and the questions that became personal 20:27 Discovering her own tongue restriction 24:43 Ad Break 25:28 What parents can ask about sleep, breathing, and dental care 33:29 The challenge of getting specialists to work together 36:13 Ad Break 36:48 Finding the right care at the right time 39:44 Understanding herself and choosing work that fits 41:49 Giving yourself permission to create another chapter

A three-wheeler accident introduced Dr. Jim "Doc" Weathers to chiropractic care when he was a teenager. He didn't even know what a chiropractor was. More than 30 years later, that first experience has led to a career spanning pediatric care, sports medicine, multidisciplinary practice, and work with elite athletes.

Dr. Stephanie Wautier talks with Doc about the turns he never could have planned. He describes how caring for young athletes drew him into sports medicine, how a relationship with an orthopedic surgeon opened the door to working alongside medical professionals, and what he learned from building a large practice in Illinois before beginning a different chapter in Colorado. These are Doc's experiences and recollections, including his account of how the hospital evaluated his work.

Their conversation also gets candid about the next generation of chiropractors. Stephanie and Doc discuss student debt, demanding associate positions, and the responsibility established practitioners have to teach younger doctors without taking advantage of their enthusiasm. Both have changed the shape of their practices over time, and they reflect on why a successful career does not have to follow one fixed path.

In the second half, Doc shares the message at the heart of his speaking work: we are more than an injury, a job title, or a difficult moment. He explains how his faith informs that belief while making room for listeners who do not share it. Stephanie and Doc talk about listening without judgment, creating space for someone to be vulnerable, and finding purpose in another chapter of life.

CONTENT NOTE AND DISCLAIMER

This episode includes a brief account of a person experiencing a suicidal crisis. The conversation shares the guests' personal experiences and perspectives. It is not medical or mental health advice, and it should not replace care from a qualified professional.

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Doc invites listeners to leave a review through the link below. Afterward, they can access his calendar to schedule a conversation with him:

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Opening 00:32 Introduction to Dr. Jim Weathers 02:48 Journey into Chiropractic 06:01 The Impact of Personal Experience 08:18 Transitioning to Sports Medicine 11:42 Building Relationships with Medical Professionals 17:14 Integrating Chiropractic into Medical Settings 19:25 Ad Break 20:00 The Evolution of a Chiropractic Career 26:39 Mentorship and the Future of Chiropractic 33:55 Ad Break 34:39 The Burden of Student Debt in Healthcare 37:28 Nurturing Young Professionals in Medicine 40:44 The Role of Mentorship and Speaking Engagements 43:34 Understanding Purpose and Identity 46:21 The Journey of Personal Growth and Resilience 52:55 Ad Break 53:25 Creating Safe Spaces for Vulnerability 56:49 The Power of Purpose Beyond Circumstances

For years, Dr. Jen Moriya dealt with health symptoms she struggled to explain. Her search for answers took her through digestive problems, celiac disease, chronic stress, genetic testing, and questions about how to care for her brain as she gets older.

In this episode of Conversations with a Chiropractor, Dr. Stephanie Wautier reconnects with her former Palmer College classmate. Jen shares her personal health story and explains how it shaped her work as a health coach. They discuss childhood stress, somatic movement, polyvagal theory, sleep, walking, and the challenge of finding habits a person can actually sustain.

Later, Jen talks about her family history of Alzheimer's disease and the steps she has chosen to focus on for brain health. Stephanie and Jen also compare infrared sauna, red light, and laser therapy, including why those terms should not be treated as interchangeable.

Some health frameworks and product claims discussed in this conversation remain debated or under study. This episode shares the speakers' experiences and perspectives for education and discussion; it is not a diagnosis or individualized medical advice. Work with a qualified healthcare professional before changing treatment or using testing results to make health decisions.

LEARN MORE ABOUT DR. JEN MORIYA Genetic Health Solutions: https://mygenetichealthsolution.com/

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CHAPTERS 00:00 Opening 00:32 Meet Dr. Jen Moriya 02:03 Gluten, celiac disease, and the search for answers 03:01 Digestive symptoms that began in childhood 05:09 Childhood stress and living in survival mode 07:52 Looking beyond the first explanation 09:32 The connection Jen sees between trauma and health 10:08 Somatic movement and nervous system regulation 13:23 The cell danger response 17:31 Addressing trauma without recounting every detail 18:55 Jen explains polyvagal theory 22:00 Triggers and the goal of greater resilience 23:41 Noticing feelings in a busy life 27:44 What Jen learned from genetic testing 32:39 Family history and concerns about Alzheimer's disease 35:08 Starting with manageable brain health habits 35:33 Walking and building a weekly routine 38:56 Sleep quality and consistency 40:16 Snoring, breathing, and sleep assessment 42:29 Infrared sauna, red light, and laser therapy 45:37 Choosing tools that fit your life 48:19 Looking at the whole person 50:56 Where to find Dr. Jen

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Lisa Franz once found herself crying in a food court in Thailand. She had finished a hard workout and was hungry, but the diet rules she had collected over the years made every available meal feel off-limits.

In this episode of Conversations with a Chiropractor, Dr. Stephanie Wautier talks with Lisa about finding a more flexible relationship with food. Lisa is the owner and head coach of Nutrition Coaching and Life and host of the Nutrition & Life podcast. She shares how her own experience with restrictive diets shaped the way she now helps clients eat, travel, exercise, and enjoy their lives.

Their conversation covers food tracking as a learning tool, the confusion many women encounter during perimenopause, the value of protein and resistance training, and why preserving strength matters well beyond the number on a scale. They also discuss GLP-1 medications, food noise, and the role of nutrition and movement alongside medical care.

Through it all, Lisa returns to a practical question: Can the habits you're building make room for the life you actually want to live?

This episode discusses weight, calorie tracking, menopause, nutrition, exercise, and prescription weight-management medications. The conversation is for education and discussion, not individualized medical or nutritional advice. Speak with a qualified healthcare professional before changing medication, beginning a restrictive diet, or making significant changes to your health routine.

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00:00 Opening 00:32 Meet Lisa Franz 01:54 How Diet Rules Took Over 05:01 Discovering a More Flexible Approach to Food 07:46 Why Restrictive Diets Are Hard to Live With 09:21 Food Tracking as a Learning Tool 15:08 Sorting Through Nutrition Advice 16:24 Protein, Fiber, Sleep, and the Menopause Transition 23:29 Is Your Metabolism "Broken"? 28:14 GLP-1 Medications and Food Noise 32:19 Resistance Training for Strength Later in Life 35:42 Food, Mindset, and Eating With More Attention 39:57 What Lisa Has Learned From Traveling the World 43:50 Where to Find Lisa

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At seven years old, Jenna Udenberg was diagnosed with juvenile arthritis. Within a year, she was using a wheelchair and beginning a lifelong education in what happens when a person encounters a world that was not designed with them in mind.

In this episode of Conversations with a Chiropractor, Dr. Stephanie Wautier talks with Jenna about disability, accessibility, assumptions, identity, and the difference between being accommodated and truly being included.

Jenna shares pieces of her journey from growing up on Minnesota's North Shore to becoming a music educator, a 2020 Bush Fellow, an author, and the founder of Above & Beyond With U. Along the way, she challenges the language we use around disability, the assumptions people make about wheelchair users, and the idea that accessibility should stop at the minimum required by law.

At the heart of the conversation is a simple philosophy Jenna continues to follow:

Do the next right thing.

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Jenna is an author, disability advocate, accessibility educator, and founder of Above & Beyond With U, an organization working to increase awareness, inclusion, accessibility, and belonging for people experiencing disability.

Above & Beyond With U: https://www.aboveandbeyondwithu.org/

Jenna's memoir, Within My Spokes: A Tapestry of Pain, Growth & Freedom, explores the pain, relationships, perseverance, identity shifts, and experiences that have shaped her life.

The book is available in paperback, hardcover, and audiobook, narrated by Jenna herself. Links to purchase are available through the Above & Beyond With U website.

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00:34 Meet Jenna Udenberg 01:25 Diagnosed With Juvenile Arthritis at Seven 06:02 Growing Up With a Wheelchair 08:26 School, Friendship, and Learning to Navigate Difference 12:26 "Disability Is Not a Bad Word" 16:05 Assumptions, Ableism, and Being Seen 18:24 Curiosity Without Intrusion 22:29 Within My Spokes 23:29 Stories, Advocacy, and the Next Right Thing 25:30 Becoming a Bush Fellow 31:04 Music, the Trumpet, and Finding an Equal Playing Field 35:24 When the Space Creates the Disability 40:34 Discrimination, Resentment, and Moving Forward 45:33 The Pandemic and an Unexpected Career Ending 49:53 How Assumptions Become Stories 50:51 Disability as Part of the Human Experience 52:57 Closing Thoughts

At 84½ years old, Michael Dorfman is still writing books, playing pickleball, experimenting with new health practices, learning from his children, and asking what else might help him live well.

In this episode of Conversations with a Chiropractor, Dr. Stephanie Wautier talks with Michael about his decades-long journey from vegetarianism to plant-based living, what sparked his interest in longevity, and why he believes aging should not automatically mean accepting chronic disease, inactivity, or a loss of purpose.

Their conversation moves beyond food into the broader ingredients of a vibrant life: movement, community, stress management, marriage, mindset, curiosity, meaningful work, and continuing to learn no matter your age.

Michael also shares what he has learned from studying longevity communities around the world and why, at this stage of his life, he sees health as something we participate in rather than something we simply hope to keep.

This episode includes discussion of plant-based nutrition, supplements, fasting, chronic disease, stress, cardiovascular health, longevity practices, and other health-related approaches.

The experiences and opinions shared in this conversation belong to the speakers and are intended for education and discussion. They should not be interpreted as individualized medical or nutritional advice. Please consult qualified healthcare professionals before making significant dietary changes, beginning new health practices, or changing prescribed treatment.

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Michael is a health and nutrition life coach, investigative author, and speaker.

Books discussed in this episode include:

The Thriving Vegan

Information Warfare: The Battle for Truth and Freedom

The Longevity Wellness Revolution

Michael also offers a free longevity guidebook. A QR code or direct download link can be added here once provided.

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00:32 Meet Michael Dorfman 01:04 From Vegetarian to Plant-Based Living 05:44 Protein, Soy, and Sorting Through Nutrition Advice 08:09 Fiber and the Standard American Diet 11:45 Leaving New York for Mexico 13:15 Nearly 66 Years of Marriage 16:20 Healthy Aging as a Couple 18:53 Food, Processed Diets, and Modern Health 22:31 The Longevity Wellness Revolution 22:45 What Are Blue Zones? 25:45 Movement Beyond the Gym 27:58 Retirement, Purpose, and Staying Engaged 29:55 Rethinking Aging in Your 80s 35:11 The Cultural Expectations Around Getting Older 37:00 Belief, Heart Disease, and Michael's Turning Point 42:20 Stress, the Nervous System, and Resilience 45:42 Learning From the Next Generation 48:53 Crawling, Mobility, and Trying New Things 51:40 Staying Curious at 84½ 54:09 Where to Find Michael Dorfman

At 86 years old, Alice Lajoie has lived through a remarkable amount of change, but some of the things she values most have remained surprisingly constant: family, faith, hard work, humor, and showing up for the people you love.

In this episode of Conversations with a Chiropractor, Dr. Stephanie Wautier sits down with Alice for a warm trip through more than eight decades of life in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.

From growing up in Ishpeming as one of eleven children to becoming one of the women who worked at the historic H.W. Gossard factory, Alice offers a glimpse into a UP that looked very different from the one we know today.

The conversation eventually turns to marriage, motherhood, loss, aging, and the family Alice and her husband Bobby built over nearly 65 years together.

There are funny memories, difficult ones, and plenty of moments that reveal just how much history can live inside one person's ordinary life.

Most of all, it is a conversation about gratitude, resilience, and the stories worth preserving while we still have the opportunity to ask.

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Stephanie and Alice talk about growing up in Ishpeming, family life in the 1940s and 1950s, French Canadian roots, Catholic faith, working at the H.W. Gossard factory, marriage and motherhood, raising a large family, nearly 65 years with Bobby, grief, aging, resilience, and the value of preserving family stories across generations.

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00:33 Meet Alice Lajoie 01:28 Growing Up in Ishpeming 05:32 Family Life and Food in the 1940s 07:25 School, Faith, and Catholic Upbringing 13:34 Penny Candy, Hand-Me-Downs, and Hard Work 16:11 Laundry, Clothing, and Everyday Life 18:40 How Alice Met Bobby 20:35 Becoming a Mother at 21 22:32 Building a Family Together 25:29 Loss, Judgment, and Family Unity 28:19 Nearly 65 Years of Marriage 31:47 The H.W. Gossard Factory 37:10 Alice's Dream of Motherhood 39:02 Love, Marriage, and Family Legacy 41:39 Learning to Live With Loss 47:28 Faith, Heaven, and Remembering Bobby 52:50 Gratitude, Family, and Legacy 54:16 Closing Thoughts

What happens when the psychologist becomes the patient?

In this episode of Conversations with a Chiropractor, Dr. Stephanie Wautier talks with psychologist, chronic illness and pain coach, author, and advocate Dr. Jeffrey Bone about his own decade-long journey with chronic illness and what that experience has taught him about pain, identity, grief, resilience, and hope.

Jeff shares how a mysterious collection of neurological and physical symptoms eventually led him through functional medicine, environmental testing, immunology, and a diagnosis of common variable immune deficiency. Along the way, he experienced something many people with complicated or chronic health conditions know all too well: the exhaustion of appointments, uncertainty, conflicting opinions, and simply wanting someone to believe that something is wrong.

But Jeff's story is not just about illness.

It is about what happens when the life you had planned is no longer available.

He and Stephanie talk about grieving your former self, accepting a new normal without surrendering your quality of life, becoming your own healthcare advocate, and finding doctors who remain genuinely curious when the answers are not obvious.

That same curiosity ultimately became one of Jeff's most important tools.

After years of defining himself largely through work, chronic illness pushed him toward poetry, books, podcasting, creativity, philosophy, new experiences, and a different definition of success. Today, he helps other people living with chronic illness and persistent pain navigate the emotional realities that often receive far less attention than the symptoms themselves.

Jeff's challenge is beautifully simple:

Ask yourself, "What could be wonderful today?"

You do not have to completely reinvent your life. Sometimes curiosity begins with trying something new, asking another question, creating something imperfectly, or simply noticing what has been around you all along.

This episode includes personal experiences and discussion of mold exposure, chronic inflammatory response syndrome, common variable immune deficiency, functional medicine, cortisol testing, supplements, sleep, chronic pain, and other health-related approaches.

The experiences and opinions shared belong to the speakers and are provided for education and conversation. This episode is not a substitute for individualized medical or mental health care. Please consult qualified healthcare professionals before beginning supplements, changing treatment, or making decisions about a chronic health condition.

This episode of Conversations with a Chiropractor is supported by Lemongrove Oil.

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Explore Exodus Strong, a faith-centered wellness company offering red and near-infrared light therapy products including full-body mats, masks, wands, belts and other at-home devices, along with molecular hydrogen and botanical supplements, frequency-based wellness products, and complete Light Code wellness systems.

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Website: https://drbone.live/

Jeff provides chronic illness coaching throughout the United States.

Podcast: To the Bone: Conversations on Pain, Illness and Meaning

Available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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00:00 Introduction 00:53 Meet Dr. Jeffrey Bone 01:52 Mold Exposure and the Search for Answers 05:10 Functional Medicine and an Immune Deficiency Diagnosis 08:44 Grieving the Old Self and Accepting a New Normal 12:31 Helping Others Through Lived Experience 17:20 Medical Burnout, Chronic Stress, and Being Believed 20:41 Exploring Treatment and Becoming Your Own Advocate 27:26 Creativity, Writing, and Finding Freedom Again 29:15 To the Bone and Creating Without Perfection 32:06 Curiosity as a Tool for Healing and Growth 37:18 Redefining Success After Chronic Illness 41:18 "What Could Be Wonderful Today?" 42:14 Where to Find Dr. Jeffrey Bone 43:39 Closing Thoughts

In this episode of Conversations with a Chiropractor, Dr. Stephanie Wautier sits down with Rebecca Tervo, CPA, author, speaker, entrepreneur, and mother whose life changed forever after the suicide of her 17-year-old son, Trevor.

Rebecca shares what those first days and years of grief were really like, including the challenge of trying to support her husband and three other children while barely understanding her own emotions. She talks honestly about seeking grief support, entering the coaching world, becoming certified herself, and eventually writing Shattered: From Grief to Joy After My Son's Suicide.

But this conversation goes far beyond grief.

Stephanie and Rebecca talk about identity, marriage, faith, leaving the religion she was raised in, human design, vision boards, self-discovery, therapy, business ownership, retirement, and the freedom that comes from realizing you are allowed to change your mind and choose a different path.

Rebecca also shares one of the most powerful shifts in her marriage: deciding that neither she nor her husband was trapped. They were choosing to stay together. That sense of freedom helped them rebuild their relationship while allowing each other space to grow independently.

Now, after years of coaching and personal reinvention, Rebecca is returning to her roots as a CPA and building a business focused on entrepreneurs and small business owners, especially women who want financial guidance without judgment, intimidation, or unnecessary complexity.

At the heart of Rebecca's story is a simple reminder: life can be unimaginably hard, but it can also become meaningful again.

You are allowed to ask for help. You are allowed to change direction. And you are allowed to build a new chapter at any age.

This episode includes discussion of suicide, child loss, grief, depression, and mental health. If these topics feel especially close to home, please listen with care and seek support from qualified mental health professionals or trusted people in your life when needed.

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Stephanie and Rebecca discuss losing a child to suicide, parenting through grief, finding support, therapy, marriage after tragedy, leaving a lifelong religious community, human design, vision boards, self-discovery, resilience, Sisu, changing careers, starting a business later in life, financial confidence for entrepreneurs, women in business, retirement, and why reinventing yourself does not have an expiration date.

Tervo Bookkeeping: https://tervobookkeeping.com/

Book: Shattered: From Grief to Joy After My Son's Suicide Available on Amazon.

Rebecca works with entrepreneurs and small business owners who want approachable financial guidance, bookkeeping support, and help making business numbers easier to understand.

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00:00 Introduction 00:53 Meet Rebecca Tervo 02:37 Losing Trevor and Entering Grief 05:19 Parenting and Marriage Through Loss 07:48 Finding Support and Grief Coaching 09:07 Writing Shattered 12:21 Human Design, Identity, and Self-Discovery 16:18 Vision Boards and the Power of Visualization 18:30 Leaving a Lifelong Religious Community 24:36 Marriage, Freedom, and Choosing Each Other 31:38 Sisu, Resilience, and Finding Meaning After Loss 37:23 Returning to Accounting and Entrepreneurship 41:18 Building a Business Around Connection 44:20 Women, Community, and the Power of Retreats 46:38 Why Rebecca Isn't Ready to Retire 48:36 Tervo Bookkeeping and Working With Entrepreneurs 50:58 Hope, Therapy, and Starting Again

Explore Exodus Strong, a faith-centered wellness company offering red and near-infrared light therapy products including full-body mats, masks, wands, belts and other at-home devices, along with molecular hydrogen and botanical supplements, frequency-based wellness products, and complete Light Code wellness systems. If you're interested in exploring what Exodus Strong has to offer, please use Dr. Stephanie's link below. Purchases made through this affiliate link help support Conversations with a Chiropractor and allow us to keep bringing you new conversations each week.

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In this episode of Conversations with a Chiropractor, Dr. Stephanie Wautier talks with Rob Rene, a faith-based wellness entrepreneur, author, podcast host, and founder of Exodus Strong.

After surviving four near-death experiences, including a serious accident and a stage three melanoma diagnosis, Rob says his outlook on health, faith, and purpose changed completely. What followed was years of research into light, frequencies, nutrition, supplements, mindset, AI, and the ways he believes the body can be supported in healing.

Rob shares the framework behind his upcoming book, Light Code, built around four pillars: light, frequencies, fuel, and faith. He explains how red and near-infrared light became part of his own recovery, why he became fascinated by frequency-based wellness, how his faith shaped the way he approached illness, and why he now believes health has to be looked at through more than one lens.

Stephanie and Rob also talk about chronic fatigue, inflammation, molecular hydrogen, biblical ingredients used in Rob's supplements, personalized wellness, AI-assisted health research, the history of conventional and alternative medicine, and the importance of staying curious while taking responsibility for your own health.

At the heart of the conversation is a message of hope.

Rob puts it simply: if you have breath in your lungs today, there is still purpose in your life.

This episode includes the guest's personal experiences, beliefs, interpretations of research, and opinions regarding cancer, frequency-based wellness, supplements, molecular hydrogen, red light therapy, healthcare history, media influence, and other health-related topics.

Some claims discussed in this conversation are debated, emerging, or not established as medical consensus. This episode is intended for education and conversation only and should not be used for self-diagnosis or treatment.

Please consult qualified healthcare professionals before making changes to cancer care, medications, supplements, light-based therapies, or other medical treatments.

This episode of Conversations with a Chiropractor is supported by Lemongrove Oil.

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Stephanie and Rob discuss Rob's four near-death experiences, his melanoma diagnosis, the four pillars of the Light Code system, red and near-infrared light, frequency-based wellness, chronic fatigue, nutrition and supplementation, molecular hydrogen, inflammation, faith and healing, the mind-body connection, self-advocacy, personalized wellness, AI and the future of health, and why Rob believes curiosity and hope can change the way people approach their health.

Exodus Strong: https://exodusstrong.com/

Biohackingville: https://biohackingville.com/

Upcoming Book: Light Code

Rob also hosts a biohacking podcast and is developing additional wellness and research resources through Exodus Strong and Biohackingville.

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00:00 Frequencies, Light, and the Human Body 02:38 Meet Rob Rene 04:41 The Light Code and Rob's Health Journey 07:25 Light, Sunlight, and Red Light Therapy 11:03 Becoming Your Own Health Advocate 12:30 Melanoma, Recovery, and Rob's Personal Experience 16:34 Understanding Frequencies 19:11 Frequency-Based Wellness and the Human Body 24:56 Chronic Fatigue and the Four Pillars 25:20 Fuel, Nutrition, and Supplementation 27:15 Molecular Hydrogen and Rob's Wellness Framework 28:10 Faith, Prayer, and the Mind-Body Connection 33:01 Alternative Medicine and Healthcare History 38:53 AI and the Future of Personalized Wellness 43:19 Hope, Purpose, and Rob's Message to Listeners 47:44 Where to Find Rob 49:13 Closing Thoughts