Conversations With Carole

Conversations With Carole

By Carole Copeland ThomasSociety & Culture
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  • 12/31/2024 EPISODE #44 Positive Reward Actions for DEI

    In this powerful end-of-year episode of Conversations with Carole, Carole Copeland Thomas delivers an inspiring message about resilience and action in the face of challenges to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Reflecting on the transformative events of 2024, Carole highlights both setbacks and triumphs in the fight for equity and justice, urging listeners to take proactive steps in supporting organizations that remain committed to DEI principles.


    Key Topics Covered:

    • The Current Landscape of DEI: Carole reviews the pressures on corporations and organizations to back away from DEI initiatives, spurred by well-funded, anti-DEI campaigns and legal challenges linked to recent Supreme Court rulings.
    • Highlighting DEI Champions: Carole celebrates two standout organizations—Northeast Human Resources Association (NEHRA) and Costco—for their unwavering commitment to DEI in the face of external pressures.
       
      • NEHRA’s Stand: Despite its larger affiliate SHRM removing "equity" from its framework, NEHRA reaffirmed its dedication to DEI values, setting an example of principled leadership.
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      • Costco’s Commitment: Costco defended its DEI programs against shareholder proposals to eliminate them, demonstrating the value of inclusion in driving innovation and operational success.
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    • Introducing PRA for DEI: Carole unveils the Positive Reward Actions strategy, a practical four-step framework for supporting organizations that uphold DEI values.


    PRA for DEI Framework:

    1. Identify Champions: Recognize organizations, big or small, that boldly support DEI.
    2. Specific Actions: Highlight the concrete steps these organizations take to resist anti-DEI pressures.
    3. Reward Their Efforts: Write letters of appreciation, support their products, or spread the word on social media.
    4. Separate Them from Crowd Pleasers: Distinguish these committed organizations from those who have merely performed lip service to DEI goals.


    Call to Action:
    Carole invites listeners to join her in 2025 by identifying and celebrating DEI champions. She encourages listeners to:

    • Share examples of champion organizations via email (details in the show notes).
    • Actively support companies and groups that resist pressures to compromise on DEI.
    • Continue the conversation on social media using #DEIChampions and #PRAforDEI.

    Resources Mentioned:

    • Links to articles on NEHRA and Costco’s DEI efforts (included in show notes).

    Newsweek Article

    https://www.newsweek.com/costco-board-shareholder-dei-hiring-2006717


    • Information about Project 2025 and its implications for DEI.

    www.project2025.org


    Happy New Year!
    As Carole says, "The best is yet to come." Start 2025 with a renewed commitment to championing diversity, equity, and inclusion. Stay bold, brave, and buoyant!

    30 min
  • EPISODE #43 Project 2025—The Trump Playbook Chapter 14 Part 2: Control Women’s Bodies - Healthcare - Abortions-Head Start

    Project 2025 is the 920+ page document that will become the playbook for the Trump Administration should he win the presidency in November 2024. It declares war on the cultural dynamics of American society, including the African-American community, other communities of color, the LGBTQ community, and those whose religious ideologies are left of center. 

    Today's podcast specifically looks at the second half of Chapter 14, which articulates anti-trans procedures, altering Medicaid and redefining the composition of “normal” American families.

    This is REAL now that Donald Trump has won the presidential election.

    This is the fourth in a series of podcasts on Project 2025. You, the listener, are encouraged to download a free copy of the document and read it for your own understanding.

    www.project2025.org

    Or

    https://bit.ly/4feGyde

    Themes Covered In Chapter 14 Include:

    1. Controlling Women’s Bodies
    2. Parental Rights
    3. White Christian Nationalists
    4. Privatization
    5. Destruction of the LGBTQ+ Community/Trans Community
    6. Anti-DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) esp. Black People
    7. Redefining the essence of a “normal” American family (biological man, woman, and child).
    8. Eliminating Head Start

    Discussed In This Episode:

    www.Indivisible.org

    Since the first Indivisible Guide went viral in 2016, spawning a national movement, the Indivisible Project has released a new “Guide” at the beginning of each Congress with practical advice on how ordinary constituents can best apply local pressure on their lawmakers in the new political landscape.

    SHINE

    Serving The Health Insurance Needs of Everyone

    The Shine Program provides free health insurance information and assistance for Medicare eligible adults and their caregivers.

    There are SHINE offices in every state. Google it to find the SHINE offices in your state.

    35 min
  • EPISODE #42: The Great Debate Kamala Harris -vs. Donald Trump The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

    In the presence of 67 million worldwide viewers, The Great Debate, like no other, resulted in spectacular results earlier this week when Vice President Kamala Harris presented her reasons why she would make a better President than former President Donald Trump.  The results weren't even close. Harris, who won the debate, dealt a crushing blow to Trump who didn't want to shake her hand at the beginning of the event, never looked her in the face, and never called her by her name.

    Carole walks you through a play-by-play commentary of who said what and how the candidates answered each question. ABC's David Muir and Linsey Davis were effective moderators by both asking solid questions while fact-checking live when the answers didn't match up.

    Even if you missed the live broadcast of the debate, this podcast offers a comprehensive review of the entire event, from its commencement to its conclusion. So, whether you're settling in with a bowl of popcorn or gearing up for a workout, get ready to delve into the stark differences between these two candidates!

    1 hr 24 min
  • EPISODE #41 Project 2025—The Presidential Playbook Chapter 14 Part 1: Control Women’s Bodies - Healthcare - Abortions

    Project 2025 is the 920+ page document that will become the playbook for the Trump Administration should he win the presidency in November 2024. It declares war on the cultural dynamics of American society, including the African-American community, other communities of color, the LGBTQ community, and those whose religious ideologies are left of center. 


    Today's podcast specifically looks at the first half of Chapter 14, which articulates the control of women’s bodies through abortion restrictions, privatizing Medicaid and redefining the composition of “normal” American families.


    This is the third in a series of podcasts on Project 2025. You, the listener, are encouraged to download a free copy of the document before the November 5th election day and read it for your own understanding.


    www.project2025.org

    Themes Covered In Chapter 14 Include:


    1. Controlling Women’s Bodies
    2. Parental Rights
    3. White Christian Nationalists
    4. Privatization
    5. Destruction of the LGBTQ+ Community/Trans Community
    6. Anti-DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) esp. Black People
    7. Redefining the essence of a “normal” American family (biological man, woman, and child).
    34 min
  • EPISODE #40 Project 2025—The Presidential Playbook Part 2: Eliminate The US Department of Education

    Project 2025 is the 920+ page document that will become the playbook for the Trump Administration should he win the presidency in November 2024. It declares war on the cultural dynamics of American society, including the African-American community, other communities of color, the LGBTQ community, and those whose religious ideologies are left of center. 

    Today's podcast specifically looks at the second half of Chapter 11, which articulates the dismantling and ending of the US Department of Education.  States' rights are the order of the day, and parent power prevails regardless of how qualified mom and dad are in determining the complete direction of their child's education. 

    This is the second of a series of podcasts on Project 2025. You, the listener, are encouraged to download a free copy of the document before the November 5th election day and read it for your own understanding.

    www.project2025.org

    Themes Covered In Chapter 11 Include:

    1. States Rights
    2. Parental Rights
    3. White Christian Nationalists
    4. Privatization
    5. Destruction of the LGBTQ+ Community/Trans Community
    6. Anti-DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) esp. Black People
    42 min
  • EPISODE #39 Project 2025—The Presidential Playbook Part 1: Eliminate The US Department of Education

    Project 2025 is the 920+ page document that will become the playbook for the Trump Administration should he win the presidency in November 2024. It declares war on the cultural dynamics of American society, including the African-American community, other communities of color, the LGBTQ community, and those whose religious ideologies are left of center. 


    Today's podcast specifically looks at Chapter 11, which articulates the dismantling and ending of the US Department of Education.  States' rights are the order of the day, and parent power prevails regardless of how qualified mom and dad are in determining the complete direction of their child's education. 


    This is the first of a series of podcasts on Project 2025. You, the listener, are encouraged to download a free copy of the document before the November 5th election day and read it for your own understanding.


    www.project2025.org

    38 min
  • EPISODE #38 THE STATE OF AMERICA: PEOPLE POLITICS PROTESTS With Bill Wells, Jr.

    There's so much going on in the United States that it's difficult to have thoughtful conversations without understanding the complexities of our issues. From the June 27th presidential debate to an attempted assassination to the Republican National Convention, Carole talks to her special guest to help clarify what is happening and why. Join us for a thoughtful conversation with business leader and corporate collaborator Bill Wells Jr., Past Chair of the National Black MBA Association.

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    Bill Wells is President, W. Wells & Associates, LLC, a management consulting firm specializing in diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) strategy development. In his work, Additionally, Bill provides customized human capital and talent acquisition & retention solutions as well. Bill also works closely with senior leaders providing coaching and guidance during culture change and transformation.


    Previously, Bill served as Vice President - Global Diversity/Chief Diversity Officer (CDO) for Traveler's Insurance. Earlier in his career, Bill held a variety of executive and general management level positions in both the telecommunications industry, including leadership roles in Human Resources, Information Technologies, Marketing, Operations, Strategic Planning, and Business Development.


    Bill holds an MBA degree with a major in Marketing, a graduate certificate in Business Administration, and a Bachelor of Arts degree with a Psychology major. Bill is a life member of the National Black MBA Association, including former Chairman, and Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity. Also, Bill is married, has two sons, two grandchildren, is a freelance writer, avid music-lover, jazz enthusiast, and enjoys golf.

    57 min
  • EPISODE #37 Learn About 5 Ways To Enhance Your Summer Cross-Cultural Collaborations

    Summer is the perfect time of year to sit back, relax, and enhance your cross cultural collaborations.

    Whether you're traveling to new destinations, exploring different cuisines, or engaging in cultural festivals, summer provides endless opportunities to immerse yourself in diverse traditions and perspectives. It's a season ripe for forging new friendships, learning new languages, and experiencing the beauty of multicultural interactions firsthand. As the sun shines brightly, let it inspire you to open your heart and mind to the myriad ways people celebrate life around the globe. So, grab your favorite drink, find a cozy spot, and learn 5 new ways to enhance your cross cultural collaborations all summer long!

    1. Read your favorite book, magazine, or article OUTSIDE while enjoying nature.
    2. Explore movies on Netflix, Prime, Apple TV, or your local theatre.
    3. Find local ethnic festivals and events.
    4. Explore a single topic or two on YouTube.
    5. Create your own cultural list of favorite topics.
    17 min
  • 6/24/2024 EPISODE #36 LGBTQ PRIDE MONTH Religion, Resistance, Relationships

    From LGBTQIA to she/her/hers, the language, descriptions, and ideological frameworks are ever-evolving. Gender identity is separate from gender expression. And these categories are also separate from sexual orientation. I self-identify as a cisgender woman whose sexual orientation affirms my attraction to men. What does all this mean?  And how do you use the word "they" when referencing a single person??

    It's Pride Month, June 2024, and we will deep dive into the LGBTQ community to understand how Religion, Resistance, and Relationships have defined the strength and resilience of this group despite the attacks aimed at curtailing and destroying their very existence.  

    Be sure to listen to Episode #35 where I present the foundational platform for the LGBTQ community. 

    I urge you to embark on this journey of self-discovery, to truly 'know the self'. This self-awareness will help you understand your own place on the spectrum before engaging in meaningful conversations with others.

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    LGBTQ RESOURCES


    STONEWALL RIOTS 1969

    https://www.history.com/topics/gay-rights/the-stonewall-riots


    REV. DR. JENNIFER LEATH

    From Black, Quare and There to Where," Part 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BA_JpHkb3Q


    HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN

    What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality?

    https://www.hrc.org/resources/what-does-the-bible-say-about-homosexuality


    FOUR THINGS YOU DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT GOD AND SAME-SEX MARRIAGE

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/four-things-you-didnt-know-about-god-and-same-sex-marriage/


    MASS TRANSGENDER POLITICAL COALITION PRONOUNS GUIDE

    https://www.masstpc.org/wp-content/uploads/MTPC-Prounouns-Guide.pdf


    UN GUIDE/GLOSSARY (Comprehensive LGBTQ Terms)

    https://www.iom.int/sites/g/files/tmzbdl486/files/documents/IOM-SOGIESC-Glossary-of-Terms.pdf


    ACLU MISSISSIPPI

    https://www.aclu-ms.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/e-book_defining_lgbtq.pdf


    GENDERBREAD PERSON (Illustrates Identity, Expression, & Attraction)

    https://www.itspronouncedmetrosexual.com/2015/03/the-genderbread-person-v3/


    ASSOCIATIONS


    Human Rights Campaign

    https://www.hrc.org/


    Wikipedia List of US Based LGBT Organizations

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT_rights_organizations_in_the_United_States


    The Trevor Project (Suicide Prevention)

    https://www.thetrevorproject.org/


    PFLAG (Supporting those in the LGBTQ Communities and their families)

    https://pflag.org/


    Check with your state, federal, county, city or regional agency for additional resources and organizations.

    31 min
  • EPISODE #35 LGBTQ 101 & Words and Terminology You’ve Never Explored Part 1

    From LGBTQIA to she/her/hers, the language, descriptions, and ideological frameworks are ever-evolving. Gender identity is separate from gender expression. And these categories are also separate from sexual orientation. I self-identify as a cisgender woman whose sexual orientation affirms my attraction to men. What does all this mean?  And how do you use the word "they" when referencing a single person??

    It's Pride Month, June 2024, and we will deep dive into the LGBTQ community using the words that matter most to them (plural!).  Use the handy references below to further research topics that have systematically changed over the last 25 years.

    Embark on a journey of self-discovery, where you can explore your own gender identity, gender expression, and sexual orientation. This exploration will equip you with the knowledge of your own pronouns, empowering you to confidently express your identity when asked. Remember, your journey is unique and valuable, and it's time to start embracing it.

    As a diversity professional, I've had my own transformative journey of understanding and embracing LGBTQIA+ terminology. It's a process that requires a deep dive into upgrading your language and perspective. I urge you to embark on this journey of self-discovery, to truly 'know the self'. This self-awareness will help you understand your own place on the spectrum before engaging in meaningful conversations with others.

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    LGBTQ TERMINOLOGY GUIDE BOOKS - FREE

    MASS TRANSGENDER POLITICAL COALITION PRONOUNS GUIDE

    https://www.masstpc.org/wp-content/uploads/MTPC-Prounouns-Guide.pdf

    UN GUIDE/GLOSSARY (Comprehensive LGBTQ Terms)

    https://www.iom.int/sites/g/files/tmzbdl486/files/documents/IOM-SOGIESC-Glossary-of-Terms.pdf

    ACLU MISSISSIPPI

    https://www.aclu-ms.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/e-book_defining_lgbtq.pdf

    GENDERBREAD PERSON (Illustrates Identity, Expression, & Attraction)

    https://www.itspronouncedmetrosexual.com/2015/03/the-genderbread-person-v3/

    ASSOCIATIONS

    Human Rights Campaign

    https://www.hrc.org/

    Wikipedia List of US Based LGBT Organizations

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT_rights_organizations_in_the_United_States

    The Trevor Project (Suicide Prevention)

    https://www.thetrevorproject.org/

    PFLAG (Supporting those in the LGBTQ Communities and their families)

    https://pflag.org/

    Check with your state, federal, county, city or regional agency for additional resources and organizations.

    24 min

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"Conversations with Carole" is meant to build a community where we can talk about current and historical issues relevant to our times. I've been in the cross culture business for many years and…