We're delighted to be rejoined in this episode by Adam Darowski, an Executive Director of Design for Sports Reference LLC. You know, the entity that brings us sports fans websites like Baseball-Reference, Pro Football-Reference, the subscriber site Stathead, and, now, the Immaculate Grid (for professional baseball, football, basketball [men's & women's], hockey, and soccer).

We catch up with Adam about all things Sports Reference and Immaculate Grid; his interest in baseball research where his current fixation builds on the work of author Scott Simkus's 2014 book, Outsider Baseball: The Weird World of Hardball on the Fringe, 1876-1950, as well as that of fellow researcher, Von Spalding; the trio has curated the professional baseball 4,000-hit club (presently 18 strong, but Miguel Cabrera is 19 hits shy but recently signed to play in the Venezuelan Professional League this fall). We also discuss Adam's growing interest in collecting trading cards (especially of those Outsider All-Stars he's researching).

You'll be able to find Adam - and several others - on YouTube Saturday from noon-midnight EDT during Ordinary Effort's first-ever Grid for a Cure: A 12-Hour ALS Immaculate Gridathon to benefit the ALS Association.

Adam can also be found here on BlueSky.

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As part of Conversations' host Doug Hill's "Around the World in 80 Sporting Events" project he and his daughter, Helena, attended the 109th running of the Indianapolis 500 Memorial Day Weekend.

On their way north to Sunday evening's destination, Helena and Doug share their instant reflections on attending the "Greatest Spectacle in Racing" for the first time.

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This episode's guest, Rex Crabtree, is - as nearly every native of Indiana is required to be - a huge basketball fan. Rex, however, zigs a bit while the rest of the Hoosier state zags. He roots for the UCLA Bruins.

Rex was a youngster when a certain Martinsville (IN) High School product, John Wooden, was guiding the Bruins to 10 NCAA Championships. Perhaps not so oddly, Rex also fell in love with the 1968 World Series Champion Detroit Tigers.

We learn about all this and a good bit more during our Conversation with Rex whose business, Photographer of the Stars, has had plenty of close encounters with some legends of the sports world. He shares a few tales about his encounters with the likes of Jeff George, Bob Gibson, Fergie Jenkins, LeBron James, Andrew Luck, Bob Knight, Pete Rose, and, of course, Wooden.

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May is Mental Health Awareness Month in the United States and we felt it an opportune time to discuss mental health as it relates to athletes.

We're joined in this episode by Dr. Bill Bloom and Matthew Clinton from Michigan-based Start My Wellness.

During our time with Bill and Matt we learn a bit about their own sports fandom, the importance of physical activity as it relates to one's mental health, what types of mental health challenges athletes may face, the impact of concussions on athletes, and a reminder about the importance of wearing a helmet while bike riding.

If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call or text 988 or visit the Lifeline Chat to connect with a trained crisis counselor.

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In this special bonus episode of Conversations, host Doug Hill is once again joined by Ken, Maury, Stephen, and Tim to discuss their experience at Tokyo's historic Meiji Jingu Stadium for a Yakult Swallows-Yomiuri Giants crosstown showdown as part of the Around the World in 80 Sporting Events project.

The quintet reflect on the 2-1 Swallows, victory it witnessed, the famed umbrella dance, and draw inevitable comparisons between this experience and what they witnessed earlier in the their trip in Korea.

(Note: Doug incorrectly identified the fourth stadium still in use that Babe Ruth played in as being in Yokohama. It is, in fact, Koshien Stadium, home of the Hanshin Tigers.)

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As some of golf's greatest players tee it up this week at Quail Hollow Golf & Country Club for the PGA Championship, it seemed an apt time to have Jason Scott Deegan Executive Editor at GolfPass.

A native of Port Huron, MI, how Jason stumbled upon golf and golf writing is quite the story. Now, having played over 1,000 courses across 26 countries he's well-practiced in the art of the game and reviewing courses.

His favorites:

• Cypress Point Club on California's famed Monterey Peninsula. Check out this drone flyover narrated by Jim Nantz.
• Cape Wickham Golf Links on King Island in Tasmania, Australia. And, because you're already on King Island, check out Ocean Dunes Golf Course.

Jason also shares the story of how he came to take ownership of a scorecard collection totaling over 300,000 as well as over 30,000 ball markers.

More from GolfPass:

• U.S. Golf Resorts Guide
• Caribbean Golf Resorts Guide

Find Jason on social media at the following locations:

• Instagram
• X/Twitter

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In this bonus episode, released on Mothers Day 2025, host Doug Hill takes a moment to reflect on his mother and her sports fandom.

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In this special episode, host Doug Hill and his traveling companions Kenneth Herbart, Maury Koffman, Tim Parker, and Stephen Miller, offer their reflections after watching a pair of Korean Baseball Organization (KBO) games in Seoul as part of Doug's Around the World in 80 Sporting Events project.

(Note: Once the introduction music is complete, listeners may need to pump up the volume a bit as some portion of the recording are faint.)

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We're excited to be joined by one of the foremost photographic chroniclers of the NBA, Nathaniel S. Butler.

(Read to the end to learn how to enter a drawing for a special prize.)

How prolific is Nat, as he's known? Check out the coffee table book he published in September that puts dozens of his most iconic images in one compendium - Courtside: 40 Years of NBA Photography.

During out Conversation with Nat we learn how his photography hobby entering St. John's University turned into role at the student newspaper, The Torch, during the men's basketball heyday of the original Big East Conference with Coach Lou Carnesecca and stars Chris Mullin, Mark Jackson, and Walter Berry. That led to shooting the then-Redmen at Madison Square Garden where he encountered such Sports Illustrated photography icons as Walter Iooss Jr., John Iacono, and Manny Millan.

The next thing Nat knew, he was a wet-behind-the-ears 20-something pitching then-NBA Commissioner David Stern the league's Manhattan offices about hiring photographers to document the league.

And now, 40-years later, Nat's still at capturing some of the game's most iconic images:

• The photo of Steph Curry's 2022 lockerroom night-night at the Warriors won the championship? Nat took it;
• LeBron James with his first NBA MVP Award in his high school lockerroom? Nat took it;
• Bill Russell grinning from ear-to-ear with 11 championship rings? Nat took it;
• Celtics' star Jayson Tatum and his son, Deuce, following Boston's 2024 title? Nat took it.

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Nat was kind enough to donate a signed copy of Courtside to The Sports Fan Project and we're conducting a random drawing to give it away. To be entered, please complete this Google Form to subscribe to The Sports Fan Project before May 18, 2025, to be entered.

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We're joined in this episode by, Debra Hallum, one of the co-owners of the 1972 Women's Sports Pub in Austin, TX.

The 1972, which opened earlier this year, derived its name from the year in which United States' Title IX law was implemented which, in part, prohibited sex-based discrimination. This led to a boom in women's sports which has only intensified in the past several years.

The 1972 follows in the footsteps of other famous women's sports bars like The Sports Bra (Portland, OR), Rough and Tumble (Seattle, WA), and A Bar of Their Own (Minneapolis, MN), that continue to open nationwide.

The concept of 1972 is simple: All televisions will be tuned to women's sports, college and professional;local and international. Unlike the era Hallum grew up in, there won't be an issue getting a female sporting event on one of the big screens.

There's food and beverage available and, whenever possible, 1972 buys from female-owned and/or female-led providers.

If you find yourself at 1972 located at 2530 Guadalupe Street, Austin, TX (mere steps from the UT campus), Debra recommends the Elote Hush Puppy, the 1972 Burger, the Texas Sheet Cake and, of course, a cold beer, from Independence Brewing.

You're able to find 1972 on social media at the following spots:

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