Convince Me

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Phill Moran, and co-host Dalton sit down with Gal Sagie—co-founder and CEO of Hypernative—to unpack how real-time threat intelligence is reshaping crypto security. From North-Korean bridge hacks to stable-coin fraud, we explore why legacy cybersecurity controls fall short and what institutions need before moving serious capital on-chain.

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro – why blockchains are not automatically secure
01:40 Wallets, MPC, and access-control basics
05:25 The 1.5 B USD Bybit cloud breach autopsy
08:30 Detecting exploits before they fire (99 percent hit-rate)
12:45 “Safe-room” withdrawals and automated incident response
14:40 Bridges, lending protocols, and the riskiest DeFi rails
18:30 Founder-laptop hacks and the human weak link
22:55 Investor due diligence: security as a must-have
28:05 Stable-coin fraud and compliance gaps
34:00 Bitcoin treasuries, tokenization, and AI-agent payments
38:45 How Hypernative will deploy its 40 M USD Series A
47:50 Regulation, innovation, and why it’s a great time to build

KEY TAKEAWAYS
Different tech stack, different threats — endpoint AV won’t protect a multi-sig.

Seconds matter — Hypernative flags 99 percent of attacks minutes ahead of the exploit.

Operational risk now outweighs code risk — cloud misconfigs and compromised laptops topple well-audited protocols.

Fraud is the next frontier — stable-coin issuers need proactive actor-classification, not just compliance blacklists.

Institutional bar is rising — real-time monitoring and automated policy enforcement are becoming investor requirements.

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Disclaimer:
opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of dig up or their respective organizations. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon for tax investment or legal related decisions. Podcast participants may hold positions in tokens or assets discussed over the course of this conversation. This is not an offer to buy or sell any token or security.

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