As the UAE welcomes COP28, in this special episode, the Aeolian Sands team meets Fatma Al Khayat, an urban planner who is shaping Abu Dhabi, the UAE's capital.

From climate change to vernacular architecture, from biophilic design to building a utopia - this episode explores what makes a perfect city that is liveable and sustainable.

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Host: Jonathan Ivan-Duke
Special Guest: Fatma Al Khayat
Producer: Mir Murtaza Khurshid