Today we’re bringing you the first of two Coping with COVID conversations from the last two weeks, a conversation between Ted Kim and Brenda and Michael Gatlin, pastors of the Duluth Vineyard in Minnesota.

In addition to leading a large, vibrant church, Brenda is the Regional Leader for the Vineyard in our region, the Midwest North. Her husband, Michael, leads Multiply Vineyard, the national church planting arm of our association of churches.