We sit and chat about Bec's son Bradley's Heavenly 21st Birthday, the families 3rd birthday without him. We chat about grief shifts with time. This year felt different for Bec, not easier, just different. We speak openly about the different ways each family members grieve and the quiet role mums or dads take on - managing everyone's emotions while navigating their own. A real heartfelt conversation about love, loss and the changing shape of grief.

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