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Esteemed listeners meet Lisa M. Ong!

Don’t let her petite frame fool you—Lisa is full of energy and passion. Standing at five feet, she brings a spark that’s contagious. And when it comes to her favorite brew, she keeps it simple with a cup of black coffee—no frills, no fuss. Much like her coffee, Lisa is all about staying genuine and getting things done, with warmth and realness at the heart of everything she does.

Lisa began her career as a CPA and self-proclaimed people pleaser but soon discovered her true gift: helping leaders transform into diamonds, empowering them to lead more inclusively and “creating equitable cultures of belonging where everyone can shine at their best.” 

So, how did she pull off this epic career transformation? Not only did Lisa champion diversity, equity, inclusion, plus belonging before it was trending, but she also leaned on her deep faith to create programs that bring people together in meaningful ways.

Growing up as the only Asian girl in many rooms, Lisa knows what it’s like to feel like you don’t fit in. She’s used that experience to shape environments where people genuinely feel like they belong—whether they’re contributing to the discussion or shaping the direction.

Now, with her own company, Wishing Out Loud, Lisa is making leaders' dreams come true by teaching them how to lead with empathy. Her mantra: “Be bold, be brave, be kind, and keep wishing out loud.” 

Get ready for some hilarious stories, powerful leadership insights, and straight-up DEI+Belonging real talk. Lisa’s secret sauce? Listening, learning, and leading. She proves that being small, scrappy, and fueled by black coffee is one heck of a superpower. Don’t miss this episode!

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In this episode of Counsel Brew, we sit down with Paul Genender, a distinguished trial lawyer and corporate strategist, to unpack the dynamic path that has shaped his impressive career. Paul’s journey is a masterclass in adaptability, resilience, and the art of navigating high-stakes environments.

Paul takes us back to the start of his legal career with a story that’ll leave you shaking your head in disbelief. How he landed his first legal job is nothing short of crazy—and it all started with a good, old-fashioned phone call. As Paul shares his journey from trial lawyer to corporate leader, he doesn’t sugarcoat the ups and downs. It’s a reminder that life’s little detours sometimes lead us to the most unexpected—and rewarding—destinations. 

Paul also chats about how the legal world is changing and why things like empathy and emotional intelligence are more important now than ever. His advice for building client relationships is like getting a recipe for that secret family dish—full of wisdom, heart, and a dash of humor. And just wait till you hear about his proudest accomplishment: he’s got a running list of all the lawyers he’s mentored through their first jury trial. 

Oh, and his daily brew go-to is two venti Starbucks iced green teas—every single day. Talk about commitment! So whether you're a seasoned lawyer or just starting out, Paul’s has plenty of advice, laughs, and stories to keep you inspired. Grab your favorite brew, kick back, and join us for this unforgettable conversation!

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You can learn more about the law firm at http://www.paulhastings.com/ 

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On this episode of Counsel Brew, we’re bringing you the ultimate dynamic duo—Suzy Fulton and Wei Wei Jeang. These two are like the Tina Fey and Amy Poehler of the legal world—funny, brilliant, and always one step ahead.

Suzy’s a tech genius who somehow makes nerd-speak sound sexy. She’s like that cool teacher who explains calculus using cat memes. Seriously, she’s turning tech talk into plain English and making everyone feel like they’ve got a PhD in innovation. Her go-to brew? Cappuccino, of course. Because just like her, it’s got layers, it’s rich, and it keeps you on your toes.

And then there’s Wei Wei—she’s the IP law guru you never knew you needed. Think Wonder Woman, but instead of a lasso, she’s wielding patent applications. Her sharp mind and strategic moves have her running circles around the competition. Jasmine tea is her thing, and honestly, it’s the perfect match—cool, calm, and kicking ass in the most sophisticated way possible.

For over a decade, these ladies have been out there pioneering the whole “let’s work from home and avoid pants” movement, way before it was cool. They’ve been cutting out all the unnecessary expenses—like office plants and awkward water cooler conversations—while still delivering top-notch service. And now? They’re on a mission to create the law firm of the future, where the lawyers are happy, the clients are happy, and everyone’s winning.

Together, Suzy and Wei Wei are the dynamic duo you wish you had on speed dial. Their teamwork, mentorship, and sheer awesomeness are basically friendship goals for anyone in the legal biz. So, grab your drink of choice—cappuccino, tea, whatever brings you joy—and tune in for a wild ride through their journey. Whether you’re new to the game or a legal legend, this episode is gonna leave you feeling inspired, entertained, and maybe even a little bit smarter.

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Find Wei Wei at https://www.linkedin.com/in/weiweijeang/

You can learn more about their innovative law firm at https://www.fultonjeang.com/

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Pack your bags and get ready for an unforgettable journey! In this episode, we’re bringing you tales and insights from one of the world’s most stunning destinations: New Zealand. Imagine leaving the familiar behind and planting new roots in a place known for its jaw-dropping landscapes, rich culture, and—let’s not forget—some seriously fantastic coffee!

Join us as we chat with the fearless Ada Echetebu, Founder and Managing Partner of Norris Echetebu Law, based in Auckland, New Zealand. Ada took a bold leap from the United States to start her trail-blazing law practice on the beautiful shores of New Zealand as the first-ever full-service US Commercial Law firm to provide US legal services to clients in New Zealand and the Pacific Islands while also serving the Australian, European, and U.S. markets. Ada’s story is one of courage, innovation, and a little bit of Texas and Kiwi magic (blended with a bit of Nigerian, Kazakh, and Louisiana juju).

Through a delightful blend of nostalgia, humor, and sharp insights, Ada shares how her unique journey has been shaped by her education, career experiences, and the vibrant culture of her new home. Navigating the complexities of international law and advising clients on their dynamic business and legal strategies deserves a moment of reflection, where the challenges of the day melt away, and you're reminded why you embarked on this bold journey in the first place.

So, buckle up for a dose of inspiration from Kiwi Land, a splash of bourbon, and stories that might make you want to connect with Ada and add New Zealand to your bucket list!

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In this episode of Counsel Brew, we chat with Bipasha Mukherjee, a corporate lawyer with a story as rich and complex as the perfect cup of black tea. From the vibrant streets of India to the legal labyrinth of the United States, Bipasha’s journey is one of sheer determination, resilience, and the unwavering power of staying true to oneself.

Bipasha shares her ongoing quest for confidence and self-discovery, navigating the challenges of thinking in her native language while thriving in a foreign culture. And let’s not forget the stupefying experience of preparing for the bar exam with a newborn by her side. Yes, you read that right—while most of us were fretting over flashcards, Bipasha was balancing newborn diapers and law books, determined to sit with her classmates and cross that bar (literally and figuratively).

Growing up in a different country gave Bipasha a unique perspective on the importance of building connections—not just professionally, but on a human level. Her background has made her more empathetic and attuned to the diverse experiences of others, a skill she believes is essential for creating a healthy and inclusive work environment.

And then, there’s the tea. Oh, the tea! Bipasha takes us on a sensory journey through her love for this cherished ritual, describing the precise art of brewing the perfect cup of black tea. For her, it’s not just a drink; it’s a connection to her roots, a moment of mindfulness in a chaotic world.

You’ll laugh, you’ll learn, and you might just find yourself craving a cup of black tea by the end.

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Foolish Fo’ Shizzle? If you’ve been keeping an eye on the 2024 Olympic Games, you’ve probably noticed Snoop Dogg living it up in Paris, spreading his signature vibe across the City of Lights. But did you know that Jared Pope, a brilliant businessman and attorney, has been working his magic here in the States too? He’s not only a powerhouse in the business world but also our go-to guru for deciphering how Snoop might dub our “Stupid Shit Segment.” The verdict? “Foolish Fo’ Shizzle!”

In this episode of Counsel Brew, we’re brewing up something special as we explore the complexities of workplace investigations and the innovative partnership Jared has forged to help companies navigate their employees’ concerns with care and expertise. Alongside his incredible wife and best friend, Jennifer Pope, Jared founded Work Shield, a company that puts the power of apology and the importance of being heard at the forefront of conflict resolution.

Jared’s entrepreneurial journey has been filled with twists and turns, but his outlook is always bright. His response to every challenge? “It’s a great opportunity.” Where some see obstacles, Jared sees doors waiting to be opened.

And let’s not forget the lighter side of things—Jared’s go-to brew after a workout is a caramel macchiato, a well-deserved treat. He’s also a fan of White Rock Coffee’s Adam Bomb, a local favorite that’s sure to give your day a delightful jolt. So if you’re in the area, you might just catch Shereen and Nicola taste-testing this caffeinated wonder to add to their ever-growing list of joy in a cup.

We hope this episode brings a smile to your face and a little extra inspiration to your day. Enjoy!

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Welcome to Counsel Brew! 

We don’t normally start with the triple SSS segment when describing a new episode, but Caren’s will leave you speechless. Resist the urge to skip to the end!

Caren is the voice for those who can’t find their own or aren’t given the opportunity to have one. As a little girl, she defied all the constraints placed on young Asian girls and found her voice early in life, always pushing the boundaries. When Mrs. Wong told young Caren she should become a lawyer, intending it as an insult, Caren agreed it was the path she should follow and never looked back.

Caren is the Regional VP and Associate General Counsel at TIAA, where she’s led the way in policy advocacy. She believes it’s a person’s moral imperative to open the door for others, to reach back and pull them up. She embodies this through her work with the Orchid Giving Circle and the Texas Women’s Foundation Board. And if that isn’t enough for you, she’s also on the advisory board for the Dallas Mavs, the State Bar of Texas liaison to the corporate counsel section, and more. Caren has been and continues to be a seeker of justice for her parents, women and children, clients, mentees, and even those she hasn’t met. Her badassery is limitless.

Caren’s brew, you ask? She’s a fluffy latte kind of woman, and we may have convinced her to let go of her guilt about not having tried black coffee with butter. We hope you enjoy this episode!

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Behind the scenes with The Honorable Judge Audrey Moorehead was even better than we imagined. A true coffee lover - her affection for a particular coffee brand is legendary & her daily brew is consumed in the interest of public safety. 

While it was clear even from a young age that her destiny was to be a lawyer, she resisted several times along the way believing it would take too long and cost too much. Her career in the business world exposed her to the jet setter lifestyle with money, fancy cars and platinum credit cards. But as luck would have it, life had a different plan for her. Never shying away from a challenge, she was determined to prove two fools wrong who told her she would never get into law school, to which she responded “excuse me, I can do hard things.” It was the feather that tipped the scale for making her realize she knew she needed to be fit for herself.

She quit her job, conquered law school, and forged her path to the law and ultimately to the judiciary.  Her cup is filled daily through her service on the bench presiding over Dallas County Criminal Court #3, where she is able to positively impact many lives and by giving back to the legal community as a mentor and leader.

Judge Moorehead’s not so secret method to keeping decorum and progress in her courtroom? … A magical candle that serves as inspiration, relief when needed, and a signal to those attorneys who find themselves drifting off course or enveloped in the heat of the moment. 

Judge Moorehead is like no other - a true gem shining with the brilliance of a rare diamond. 

We invite you to grab your favorite multi-hyphenated brew and enjoy this dynamic conversation. 

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Welcome to Counsel Brew! 

"Show me, Show me, Show me" a true servant leader who really knows how to mark a milestone birthday!  

Meet Dena DeNooyer Stroh, General Counsel of the North Texas Tollway Authority and bar leader extraordinaire. She is one of those people that once you cross paths with her, you know you’ve happened upon someone special and are so happy to be within her orbit. Her energy is boundless and contagious. She lives life to the fullest - we secretly believe she must be a magical time traveler because she is literally everywhere and doing all the things! 

Even before law school, Dena envisioned herself as an impactful leader bringing others alongside her to serve the community. She is a deeply respected person not just for her lawyering but for her ability to constantly lift up others.

We invite you to sit back and enjoy learning how she refuels with her favorite brew & the rules for an epic musical adventure. 

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Welcome to Counsel Brew! 

Meet Paula Quijano, Senior VP of Little Empire Music. She is full of energy and is a coffee lover, but is known to make a mean matcha latte.  Her work brings her joy when she sees the impact of her artists’ work on their fans at live events and through social media. 

For over 20 years, she has guided some of the industry’s most respected artists, including acclaimed singer-songwriter Rufus Wainwright, legendary electroclash act Fischerspooner, and the chart-topping electro-pop duo Galantis.

An ardent fan of electronic music, Paula transformed her passion into a career at New York’s MCT Management, where she worked with Moby on his breakthrough album, Play. Over the next decade at MCT, she built her own impressive roster. She also began producing live events and has since overseen concerts at such iconic venues as the Hollywood Bowl, Carnegie Hall, Royal Albert Hall, and The Odeon of Herodes Atticus at the Acropolis. 

She founded Little Giant Entertainment in 2011, where she managed music artists such as Bebel Gilberto, Penguin Prison, and the GRAMMY® Award-winning producer and engineer Tom Schick (Wilco, Norah Jones, Mavis Staples). 

After many years in NYC, Paula relocated to LA and brought her valuable experience and formidable roster to Little Empire. Today, her clientele includes Galantis and Schick, as well as DJ/ producer Junior Sanchez, DJ/producer Born Dirty, Juno Award-winning artist and sought-after songwriter Dragonette, Grammy Award winning DJ/ Producer, CID, and bestselling Australian duo The Presets.

Join us as we learn about Paula’s journey from pre-med to becoming a powerhouse in the entertainment industry & Recording Academy Voting Member. And most importantly, if you have never heard of a rave cruise, this is your chance to be in the know!

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