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Counter-Errorism - Episode 22 - Nikki Knapp
Get to know Nikki Knapp:
Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleknapp/
Email: [email protected]
In her conversation on the Counter Errorism podcast, Nikki Knapp shares practical, creative approaches to teaching Human and Organizational Performance (HOP) and emphasizes the critical importance of human connection.
Here are the key lessons we learn from her approach:
Relationships as the Foundation of HOP
Knapp stresses that you cannot prevent, detect, or correct errors until people feel comfortable talking to you. If a safety professional lacks a relationship with workers, leaders, or engineers, they have zero influence and cannot advocate for meaningful change. To build this trust and psychological safety, she intentionally uses vulnerability—sharing her own mistakes and off-the-wall personal stories to disarm people and prove she is just as fallible as they are.
Integration vs. Implementation
Many leaders simply want a checklist or procedure to formally "implement" HOP as a standard safety program. However, Knapp points out that you cannot mandate or implement a relationship. Because every person and organization is unique, HOP principles must be organically integrated into everyday interactions and systems rather than blindly implemented out of a box.
Using Games for Experiential Learning
To make dry subjects (like error precursors or radiation training) engaging, Knapp uses hands-on games to crack people's shells. Some of her practical exercises include:
Celebrating Success and "Normal Work"
Organizations are notoriously quick to dissect what went wrong, but they rarely take the time to celebrate "normal work"—the days when everything goes right and no one gets hurt. Knapp advocates for pausing to actually celebrate successes before picking apart minor failures. She also champions peer-to-peer recognition systems (like Bucket List or Kudos) where workers can publicly reward each other with points for good catches, safety improvements, and helpful behavior, which also gives leaders visibility into the good things happening on the floor.
Care Before Correction
When an incident does happen, leaders often default to their strategic brains, immediately asking how the event could have been prevented. Knapp actively coaches leaders to pause and ensure that the very first question asked in any post-event meeting is, "How are they doing?", ensuring that the human being and their family are cared for before any operational learning takes place.
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Get to know Nikki Knapp:
Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleknapp/
Email: [email protected]
In her conversation on the Counter Errorism podcast, Nikki Knapp shares practical, creative approaches to teaching Human and Organizational Performance (HOP) and emphasizes the critical importance of human connection.
Here are the key lessons we learn from her approach:
Relationships as the Foundation of HOP
Knapp stresses that you cannot prevent, detect, or correct errors until people feel comfortable talking to you. If a safety professional lacks a relationship with workers, leaders, or engineers, they have zero influence and cannot advocate for meaningful change. To build this trust and psychological safety, she intentionally uses vulnerability—sharing her own mistakes and off-the-wall personal stories to disarm people and prove she is just as fallible as they are.
Integration vs. Implementation
Many leaders simply want a checklist or procedure to formally "implement" HOP as a standard safety program. However, Knapp points out that you cannot mandate or implement a relationship. Because every person and organization is unique, HOP principles must be organically integrated into everyday interactions and systems rather than blindly implemented out of a box.
Using Games for Experiential Learning
To make dry subjects (like error precursors or radiation training) engaging, Knapp uses hands-on games to crack people's shells. Some of her practical exercises include:
Celebrating Success and "Normal Work"
Organizations are notoriously quick to dissect what went wrong, but they rarely take the time to celebrate "normal work"—the days when everything goes right and no one gets hurt. Knapp advocates for pausing to actually celebrate successes before picking apart minor failures. She also champions peer-to-peer recognition systems (like Bucket List or Kudos) where workers can publicly reward each other with points for good catches, safety improvements, and helpful behavior, which also gives leaders visibility into the good things happening on the floor.
Care Before Correction
When an incident does happen, leaders often default to their strategic brains, immediately asking how the event could have been prevented. Knapp actively coaches leaders to pause and ensure that the very first question asked in any post-event meeting is, "How are they doing?", ensuring that the human being and their family are cared for before any operational learning takes place.
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