We loved catching up with John!!! Our conversation bounced between light and deep—covering everything from the chaos of his love life to the raw, honest truths about addiction, depression, and the road to healing. Of course, we somehow ended up laughing every other minute. We also talked about his upcoming comedy tour and everything there is to look forward to!! It was vulnerable, hilarious, and everything in between. Hope you enjoy!

(00:00) meet our funny best friend 😂

(01:12) personal shame and its power

(03:48) reducing false narratives, people pleasing, and approval seeking

(10:54) the range rover

(12:22) am i good now after doing all of that?

(14:23) are comedians filled with pain? do the jokes help you heal or cope?

(19:15) everyone needs something, everyone needs some support…

(22:12) “at least you’re crying, but you’re on a yacht.”

(24:02) talented kids, overdriving parents, and “trauma” memories

(32:17) finding your moving sidewalk

(35:15) thoughts on “creator comedians” and the drug of attention

(39:26) delete that and tour

In this episode, we got to hang out with Sahil Bloom—entrepreneur, investor, author and all-around deep thinker—to chat about his new book, The 5 Types of Wealth. Spoiler alert: wealth isn’t just about money! Sahil breaks down the five types of wealth and shares why focusing on all of them (and not just your bank account) leads to a richer, more fulfilling life. If you’ve ever felt like you’re chasing success but missing the mark, this conversation will help you get back on track! Sahil is so inspiring and we love how open he is about his own personal struggles to get to where he is today. We hope this episode encourages you to wake up tomorrow and invest in what really matters!

(00:00) meet sahil bloom

(00:50) let’s begin

(02:22) why self-help

(05:54) how can you convince people that it isn’t about monetary success

(09:30) finding balance while maintaining agency over your life

(12:01) the power of 30 days

(13:46) showing up when the rewards are uncertain

(17:26) there is no quick fix

(21:52) viewing freedom in terms of responsibility

(29:17) is structuring your life bad

(33:34) what do you hope people take away from “the 5 types of wealth”

(34:40) what success looks like to sahil

(36:26) advice from people in their 90s

(38:23) how do you see yourself

(43:11) how did having a kid change your life

(46:50) how are you viewing your future

(49:16) best piece of daily advice

(51:30) how to view planning

Today we got to interview Rich and DawnCheré Wilkerson, a couple we’ve been wanting to meet for a while and the conversation didn’t disappoint! After an 8 year battle with infertility, DawnCheré and her husband Rich are here to share their story of God’s faithfulness after a long season of waiting. We talked about DawnCheré’s powerful new book that explores what it means to find purpose, joy, and strength in seasons of waiting, and how we are all waiting on something in our lives. Together, Rich and DawnCheré share how their journey through infertility, ministry, and unanswered prayers transformed their perspective on pain, purpose, and God’s timing. So whether you’re in a holding pattern or coming out of a hard season, we hope this conversation reminds you that your story is still unfolding.

(00:00) meet rich and dawncheré wilkerson

(01:20) let the chat begin

(02:20) how did the wilkersons become the wilkersons

(05:30) dawncheré’s beautiful name

(07:50) leading a church together … what does that look like

(13:32) what is the hardest thing in ministry right now

(18:31) living in the wait

(21:05) is it harder to wait these days

(25:45) how to navigate people telling you not to wait … does waiting mean something is wrong

(34:38) how do you wake up and find hope in the waiting

(40:30) how did it feel when you had your first baby

(46:27) do you force yourself to wait in an intentional way

(50:34) waiting can be the “golden moment”

Today we sat down with two incredible resources and human beings, beloved counselors and best-selling authors, Sissy Goff and David Thomas from Daystar Counseling. We have learned SO much from them over the years. With decades of combined experience walking alongside children and families, Sissy and David bring wisdom, warmth, and practical tools to the table as they share insights from their highly anticipated book series for kids  called “The Daystar Dog Series.” We dive into topics like childhood anxiety,  emotional resilience, the importance of connection, and what parents can be doing to check in with their child’s emotions.  Whether you're a parent, caregiver, teacher, or someone who simply loves the next generation, we hope conversation leaves you encouraged and equipped.

Love you guys!

Shawn and Andrew 

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(00:00) meet our favorite parenting gurus

(01:18) interview begins

(02:51) we are going to make mistakes

(03:33) why are anxiety rates on the rise for kids?

(08:35) resilience... daystar dogs!

(12:00) helping kids grow their “muscles”

(13:25) being aware of your feelings

(19:16) finding their confidence

(25:14) a kid who doesn’t use their voice and the worry bug

(28:06) teaching courage

(30:22) what are signs to look for with anxiety?

(37:26) what age should you start counseling?

(40:27) we are at hypervigilance

(44:24) too much information and finding the right information

Today we had the privilege of sitting down with Dr. Emily Heisey (Doctor of Physical Therapy) and Dr. Matt Otteman (Doctor of Chiropractic), Co-Owners of KinActive Kids and Pediatric Development Experts! As a parent it can feel overwhelming and often intimidating to focus on each milestone your child is supposed to hit at each age group, but Dr. Emily and Dr. Matt take the stress away by showing parents easy (and super fun) ways to play with your kids while also encouraging their brain development! They offered some amazing insights into what we all can be doing to stop comparing the progress of each of our kids and start honing in on each child’s unique way of learning. Such a cool conversation- we learned so much!

Today we were starstruck because we sat down with two stars (who we now consider friends) Alexa and Carlos PenaVega! Alexa played Carmen Cortez in the hit film series, Spy Kids, and Carlos starred as Carlos Garcia on the Nickelodeon series Big Time Rush so it’s safe to say they’re a power couple and our inner-child was freaking out a little. What we love most about this couple is how authentic they are, even in an industry where being yourself and standing strong in your faith can sometimes cost you a job. This couple has been through so much and their unwavering peace, joy and love for one another is truly an inspiration. We could have talked to Alexa and Carlos all day, they are seriously the best. Check out their new book, “Love Is The Point” out August 22, 2025!

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Today we sat down with Hunter and Devin Cordle, a couple we’ve been told we needed to meet for a long time and you guys were right, we loved them! Hunter and Devin, best known online as “The Cordle Family” share their hilarious and unfiltered take on marriage, parenting, faith, and everyday life with their online audience of over 6 million, but what stood out to us about them the most was their genuine hearts, vulnerability and authentic love for one another (plus they’re really funny so that helps too haha). We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we enjoyed meeting the Cordles! Let us know who we should book next in the comments below!

Today, we had the pleasure of sitting down with relationship expert, wife and mom of two- Dr. Morgan Cutlip to chat about managing the mental load in marriage for more joy, less resentment, and deeper intimacy. All topics she covers in depth in her new book, A Better Share! This conversation was both eye-opening and encouraging. We gained valuable insights on recognizing unhealthy patterns in how we carry our mental loads, how to prevent the resentment from creeping into your marriage and how to keep your marriage playful and fun despite how long it’s been! Let us know your thoughts in the comments 🙂

Love you guys!

Shawn and Andrew

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Today's our 9th anniversary!! So we thought what better way to celebrate than to sit down and reminisce on the last nine incredible years together. We've come so far since the early days of our marriage and I'm so proud of us for continuing to choose each other every single day❤️

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Today we made a new friend we know you’re going to love. Jessica N. Turner is a mom, content creator, blogging veteran, Wall Street Journal Bestseller, award-winning marketing professional, public speaker…you get the idea- she’s amazing! Jessica’s story is anything but ordinary and so is her optimism and perspective on how to get back on your feet. Her new book “I thought it would be better than this” touches on her story of losing her 16-year marriage when her husband came out as gay and how this life-shattering moment gave her the grit and determination to pick up the pieces and choose hope to build a beautiful next chapter. Whether you’ve faced disappointment in dating, at work, in marriage or anywhere else in your life (as we all have) this episode is for you!

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