In this episode, we dive into a thought-provoking discussion inspired by a Brene Brown video about the evolution of leadership: from muscle to brain to heart.

We explore how courage, connection, and empathy define modern leadership and share personal insights about pride, humility, and the challenges of leading in today’s world.

Reflecting on the Enneagram, personal growth, and lessons from the salon industry, we unpack what it means to truly lead with heart. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone looking to elevate their leadership approach and create lasting impact.