The conversation explores the shift from traditional work methods rooted in the industrial age to more dynamic and collaborative approaches necessary for navigating today's complex challenges. Tamara emphasizes the importance of listening to diverse perspectives to foster effective collaboration and find solutions in a divisive environment.

Takeaways

• Old ways of working are no longer effective.
• We need to question how we do things.
• Work must be more dynamic to adapt to complexity.
• Listening to different perspectives is crucial.
• It's not about being a rebel, but finding solutions.
• Collaboration is key in divisive times.
• We must work well together to move forward.
• The industrial age methods are outdated.
• Complexity requires new approaches to work.
• Finding a way forward involves diverse viewpoints.

  Sound Bites

• "You can't work in that way anymore."
• "We need to work more dynamically." "Listening to different perspectives is so important."