This is the conclusion to Lance and Matt's discussion with Tim Grierson on Wilco's 13th studio album Cousin.

Tim Grierson is the senior U.S. critic for Screen International. His writing appears frequently at the Los Angeles Times, Vulture and Rolling Stone. Grierson co-hosts the weekly film podcast Grierson & Leitch, and he is the author of seven books, including This Is How You Make a Movie and Wilco: Sunken Treasure.