In this episode of COVIDcast, Ben Bland, a research fellow at the Lowy Institute, sat down with Tom Tugendhat MP to discuss the UK’s COVID-19 crisis, the imminent Brexit endgame and why the British government is taking a tougher stance on China. Tugendhat is a rising star in the ruling Conservative party and chair of the UK parliament’s foreign affairs committee.

COVIDcast is a Lowy Institute pop-up podcast for anyone interested in understanding the effect of the COVID-19 pandemic on global politics. In each episode, Lowy Institute experts and invited guests discuss the implications of this crisis for the world.