Understanding the true environmental cost of digital innovation is crucial for governments aiming to embed sustainability into their digital delivery processes. Governments are embedding sustainability into the heart of digital delivery. Can governments ensure that their digital advancements contribute positively to the environment while maintaining efficiency and effectiveness in their services?

This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk to Liam Walsh, Chief Architect, and Paul Mukherjee, CTO at the UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra), to explore how the UK government is embedding sustainability into the heart of digital delivery—and holding tech suppliers accountable.

TLDR
00:32 Introduction of Liam Walsh and Paul Mukherjee
01:47 Rob is not confused but Marcel has frustrations with the slow pace of AI implementation
05:50 Discussion with Liam and Paul on integrating sustainability within government operations
31:17 The significance of Fusion Teams
36:18 Attending a gig and reading AI books in front of the caravan

Guests
Liam Walsh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liamjameswalsh/
Paul Mukherjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmukherjee/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini