Here I sit down with my ol partner and dear friend Billie Jack Saebens. Coming from humble origins Billie has made quite a name for himself in the arena as a two time NFR heeler and head trainer at DF rope horses. We talk about the how DF was started, where it is now, and where it is headed. We also discuss rodeo, the bubble, and how much advice a team roper should give barrel racers! Of course no Billie Jack interview is complete without discussing his cousin Frank, Billie has quite an inspiring story that should encourage anyone who want to pursue their dreams!