Not to Forgive, but to Understand

Craig Etcheson: Establishing the Khmer Rouge Tribunal (ECCC)


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In this episode, we sit down with Craig Etcheson to explore his experiences conducting groundbreaking research on the Khmer Rouge and his role in the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia (ECCC). We delve into the continued activities of the Khmer Rouge, the challenges of balancing justice and negotiation, and how narratives surrounding the Cambodian Genocide have evolved over time. Craig shares insights on genocide's legal constitution, the unique challenges faced by post-conflict societies, and parallels between international tribunals. He also offers advice for scholars and reflects on the human capacity for extraordinary evil.

00:00:00 Opening and Introduction
00:01:42 Insights from Research on the Khmer Rouge
00:04:03 Ongoing Activities of the Khmer Rouge Post-1979
00:06:57 Balancing Justice and Diplomacy in Negotiations
00:09:15 Reflecting on Choices: What Could Have Been Done Differently?
00:13:34 Evolving Narratives: How Research Shaped Our Understanding
00:15:44 Defining Genocide: The Case of Cambodia
00:18:21 The Naming of Genocide
00:19:55 Finding Workarounds: Challenges in Addressing Genocide
00:22:05 Lessons for Post-Conflict Societies from Cambodia
00:24:27 Historical Precedents in Transitional Justice
00:27:04 Comparing the ECCC and Sierra Leone’s Special Court
00:28:37 The Future of International Tribunals: What’s Next?
00:31:45 Career Advice for Aspiring Scholars and Practitioners
00:33:40 Exploring Creative Writing
00:38:04 What Are We Still Missing in Understanding Genocide?
00:43:13 The Impact of "Othering" on Personal and Professional Work
00:45:44 Key Advice for Researchers in Genocide Studies
00:47:58 Grappling with the Concept of Extraordinary Evil



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Not to Forgive, but to UnderstandBy Sabah Carrim and Luis Gonzalez-Aponte