GKB President Craig Karmazin joins Jen, Gabe & Chewy following the Packers’ Thanksgiving win to break down the most important question in Green Bay: Who’s more valuable — Jordan Love or Micah Parsons? Craig argues that while Parsons is having a historic defensive season, Love’s growth and consistency make him the true foundation of the Packers’ success.

The conversation dives into why some fans are still hesitant to embrace Love, how his season compares to past Packers quarterbacks, and why the NFC is more balanced — and more winnable — than people realize. Craig explains why Green Bay can still be a postseason threat, but also why nothing is guaranteed in a conference where “good teams lose to bad teams every week.”

Plus: reflections on team confidence, what separates this Packers roster from others around the league, and why stacking wins—not style points—will determine whether Green Bay belongs in the NFC’s top tier.

🎧 Packers insight, honest debate, and Wisconsin sports energy — every weekday on Jen, Gabe & Chewy.

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