In Episode 6 of Crazy Real with Bugge & Zogg, Jenn “Bugge” and Marissa “Zogg” welcome psychic and medium Jessica, aka ESP_by_Jessica, for a candid, funny, and surprisingly grounding conversation about what it’s actually like to live with the gift.

Jessica shares the moment she first realized she could connect with spirit—when she was just a little kid—and explains how she learned to manage it over time (including how she turns it off when the energy gets overwhelming). Bugge & Zogg dig into the difference between a psychic and a medium, what a session feels like in-person vs. over the phone, and why Jessica encourages a healthy dose of skepticism—because your first reading shouldn’t be with someone who’s just fishing for answers.

You’ll also hear Jessica talk about using tarot as a tool (and why the same cards keep showing up when nothing in your life has changed), how kids can be more spiritually receptive, and the very real boundaries she keeps in place—especially when someone’s energy feels unsafe or when a situation is truly mental-health related (not spiritual).

If you’ve ever been curious about readings, energy, or why your gut is louder than you want to admit… this one’s for you.

Find Jessica:

• Instagram: @esp_by_jessica
• Website: readingsbyjessica.com