Marcus and Esme fulfill a long-delayed promise by completing the Love and trilogy, and it only took them 23 episodes! Go back and listen to Love and ADHD (episode 2) and Love and Depression (episode 3) if you want to experience the full scope of their non-neurotypical love story. We promise it’s a better trilogy than the Godfather (but that’s mostly because Godfather part III was terrible).

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No, people with ADHD are not too literal. We’re not “too” anything. We’re glorious unicorns. That said, numerous studies have demonstrated that people with ADHD often have difficulties understanding and interpreting non-literal language. Marcus is skeptical of this claim. After all, he’s fluent in sarcasm and is always down for a little idiomatic wordplay. Fortunately, Esme talks him through the research and helps him recognize where his own thinking tends to be a little black and white. 

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Marcus and Esme pick up where they left off with last week’s discussion about Selective Serotonin Uptake Inhibitors (SSRIs). They begin with an overview of some of the more common myths and outright lies about SSRIs. Then, they discuss a study that demonstrates the impact of misinformation and conspiracy theories on peoples’ willingness to get the help they need. Finally, they close with an extended rant about HHS Secretary RFK Jr., because if ever a man existed who has not received enough negative reinforcement in his life, it’s that crackly-skinned son of a gun.

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Esme is back! This week, the Okayviuses discuss Selective Serotonin Uptake Inhibitors (SSRIs), the very common antidepressant that, for a variety of reasons, is the target of a lot of influencers and media members who make money by lying to their audiences. The Okayviuses are quick to acknowledge that the experience of going on SSRIs leaves a lot to be desired, but ultimately conclude that the experience is a lot better than the worst possible outcome for anyone who is suffering from depression. 

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Esme is still under the weather. Marcus is, too, but he’s all hepped up on cough and cold medicines. Let’s hope Esme is restored to good health in short order, or Marcus might continue to go rogue in the editing suite.

Anywho . . . this very special bonus episode contains some additional content from the interview with Will the forester. Will shares a hair-raising tale about accidentally discovering an old mine shaft with his foot. He also discusses how the challenges and the demands of the job can impact foresters’ mental health, and why it’s so hard for them to ask for help. 

Thanks again to Will for joining our podcast this week. We appreciate and admire his willingness to step forward and discuss these issues, and we’re grateful that he chose to do that on our show. 

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Marcus and Esme welcome their very first guest to the podcast! Will the forester (not his official title) joins the O’Kayviuses to discuss the impact the natural world has on our mental health and wellness. They also discuss the very nature of what it means to have ADHD, and how sometimes the best “treatment” is not figuring out how to fit into society, but finding a place in this world that is the best fit for you.

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Anyone who has struggled with depression is a tough SOB. Talk about survival skills! Even so, the prospect of undergoing treatment can be a little scary, particularly if it’s someone’s first attempt at getting help. The process is so filled with unknowns – it’s hard to know what to expect. That’s why Marcus and Esme have dedicated an episode to talking about what people can expect as they progress on the road to overcoming depression.

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It feels like overkill, but there are so many ways to feel and fear rejection, particularly if you have ADHD. Marcus and Esme discuss three different ways in which those feelings can manifest: rejection sensitivity, Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria (RSD), and Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (CPTSD). Spoiler alert: This topic will definitely be revisited in future episodes, so Marcus and Esme might just ask you to share your stories (if you feel comfortable with that sort of thing). 

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Marcus and Esme explore the concept of happiness as defined by Sociology and Econ majors. They also try to figure out what makes the Finnish people so freaking happy, and come away impressed by their gritty determination to pursue general contentment in a cold, cruel world. Sisu!

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It’s movie night! Marcus and Esme discuss the 2012 film Silver Linings Playbook.

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