In this episode of Creating the Curve, Anna is joined by Inclusion Educator, writer, and speaker Orla McKeating, founder of Still I Rise Stories.
Together, they explore what inclusion actually looks like in practice, beyond policies, buzzwords, and tick-box exercises. Orla shares how storytelling creates safer, more human spaces for difficult conversations, particularly around race, neurodiversity, identity, disability, and belonging.
The conversation moves from childhood and education into workplaces and entrepreneurship, unpacking why culture is so hard to define, why psychological safety matters more than perks, and how founders and leaders can unintentionally exclude people even when their intentions are good.
Anna and Orla talk candidly about power, privilege, discomfort, resilience, management, and why community is one of the most under-valued tools for building inclusive, sustainable businesses. This episode is honest, thoughtful, and grounded in real experience, not theory.
It is a must-listen for founders, leaders, educators, and anyone trying to build environments where people can genuinely thrive, not just survive.
Find our guest Orla at: https://www.stillirisevoices.org
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