In this episode of Creative Intelligence, author Sangeet Paul Choudary joins Kartik Hosanagar to unpack why the popular phrase “AI won’t take your job, but someone using AI will” is a dangerous oversimplification. Instead of just changing tasks, AI is transforming the entire system of work—reshaping roles, workflows, and even the structure of organizations. If you want to stay relevant in the age of AI, this conversation is essential.

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Kartik speaks with Keith Ferrazzi, author of numerous leadership books like Never Lead Alone, and Leading Without Authority, and Gautam Tambay, co-founder and CEO of Springboard, an online learning resource that helps learners gain relevant software skills for employment. They talk about the new role AI will play in helping teams engage in more open and productive communication, how to reskill workers for the new age, and which jobs might be replaced, augmented, or created as a result of AI.

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In front of a live audience at Wharton’s San Francisco campus, Kartik is joined by Cade Metz, a technology reporter for the New York Times, and author of the book Genius Makers: The Mavericks Who Brought AI to Google, Facebook, and the World. The pair talk about the titans of modern AI, such as Geoffrey Hinton and Demis Hassabis, the role of AI in art and journalism, and the seemingly contradicting viewpoints of today's AI leaders.

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Kartik Hosanagar, host of Creative Intelligence and Faculty Co-Director of Wharton Human-AI Research, is joined by Sal Khan, Founder of Khan Academy, an incredibly popular non-profit educational organization that helps learners around the world. Together, Kartik and Sal discuss how Sal got his start, Khan Academy’s AI assistant tool, Khanmigo, the role AI plays in education, and why Sal, in spite of what some might consider evidence to the contrary, remains optimistic about our AI future.

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Welcome to Creative Intelligence, a podcast where we explore the cutting-edge intersection of AI, creativity, and human potential. Hosted by Kartik Hosanagar, Faculty Co-Director of Wharton Human-AI Research, and the John C. Hower Professor of Operations, Information and Decisions at the Wharton School. Our series premiere launches on May 20, 2025.

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