From marketing to team-building, there are many fields to navigate for the modern artist and creator. Very rarely is there a clear path, and most are faced with the A or B choice of jumping in and taking a big risk or choosing the much safer route of status quo stagnancy.
In this episode of Creativity Excitement Emotion, David passes the mic with fractional CMO, marketing coach, college professor, and TV host extraordinaire Peter Murphy Lewis, who helps make the complicated entrepreneurial path simpler.
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Highlights:
00:17 – Today’s guest, Peter Murphy Lewis
00:29 – What is a fractional CMO?
01:43 – Challenges Pete solves for his customers
04:17 – Interpreting data: How important is human involvement?
09:05 – How is marketing changing with the growth of AI?
13:04 – How artists can improve their marketing
24:25 – When is the right time for a solopreneur to find their first team member?
30:11 – Bass fishing
31:30 – Renaissance man
32:08 – Happiness is reality divided by expectations
33:29 – Success is in the prep work
34:47 – Books that have helped Peter
35:43 – What matters in life
39:18 – Peter’s forthcoming book
42:44 – Concluding thoughts
Summary:
In this wide-ranging conversation, Peter Murphy Lewis shares his expertise as a fractional CMO, discussing everything from data analysis and team building to marketing strategies for artists. With experience as a marketing coach, college professor, and TV host, Murphy Lewis offers practical insights for both established businesses and emerging creatives.
Understanding the Role of a Fractional CMO
A fractional CMO is far more than just a freelance marketer. Key distinctions include:
Experience as a chief marketing officer for medium to large companies
Comprehensive understanding of strategic planning and revenue operations
Deep knowledge of the complete marketing stack
Business acumen including budgeting and team management
Available at a fraction of the cost of a full-time executive ($300-600k salary equivalent)
Common Challenges and Solutions
Murphy Lewis primarily helps CEOs of companies in the $2-15 million revenue range with:
Data Analysis
Making sense of overwhelming amounts of data
Cleaning up "dirty" data
Fixing broken attribution systems
Team Scaling
Hiring and developing talent
Creating effective team structures
Building sustainable growth systems
The Evolution of Marketing in the AI Era
Current Challenges
Over-reliance on automation without understanding basics
Misuse of customer data leading to privacy concerns
Increased sophistication of competitors using data maliciously
Ad blockers and other technological barriers
Successful Approaches
Focusing on human connection and storytelling
Doubling down on personal relationships
Creating targeted, niche communities
Using technology to enhance rather than replace human interaction
Marketing Strategies for Artists
Murphy Lewis offers several key strategies for artists looking to grow their audience and business:
1. Leverage Bartering
Exchange services with other professionals
Find complementary skills that benefit both parties
Use bartering to build relationships and network
2. Document and Repurpose Success
Record testimonials after successful events
Capture positive feedback in the moment
Systematically repurpose positive press across multiple platforms
3. Build Strong Distribution Systems
Utilize existing platforms (CD Baby, Tune Core, BookBaby)
Create multiple revenue streams
Maintain consistent presence across platforms
4. Develop Professional Marketing Materials
Create professional pitch decks
Build comprehensive press kits
Maintain organized marketing assets
Building Your First Team
When to Hire
The right time to hire comes when:
Someone can perform tasks at 70-80% of your capability
You need to focus on revenue-generating activities
Administrative tasks are taking too much creative time
Common Hiring Challenges
Perfectionism
Difficulty delegating
Unwillingness to accept "good enough"
Asking Anxiety
Discomfort with making requests
Fear of negotiation
Uncertainty about fair compensation
Best Practices for Team Building
Start with interns or part-time help
Be clear about expectations and voice
Embrace imperfection in delegation
Focus on finding A-players who thrive on challenges
Action Steps for Implementation
For Artists and Creatives:
Create a list of services you can barter
Document all positive feedback and press
Develop a system for repurposing content
Build a basic pitch deck for opportunities
For Business Owners:
Audit your current data analysis processes
Identify tasks that could be delegated
Create clear systems for team management
Focus on finding and retaining A-players
For Everyone:
Start with a clear hypothesis before diving into data
Focus on building genuine connections
Document successful processes
Maintain balance between automation and human touch
Key Takeaways
Success in modern marketing requires a balance of technical knowledge and human understanding
Data should support, not replace, common sense and strategy
Building a team requires overcoming personal barriers and embracing imperfection
Bartering and relationship building remain crucial for growth
Documentation and repurposing of success creates compound returns
About Peter Murphy Lewis
Currently residing in Wichita, Kansas (literally inside a zoo), Peter Murphy Lewis brings a unique perspective to marketing and team building. His approach combines data-driven strategy with human-centered execution, helping businesses and individuals achieve sustainable growth while maintaining authentic connections with their audience.
Navigating the AI Revolution in Marketing
Murphy Lewis offers valuable insights into the role of artificial intelligence in modern marketing:
The Reality of AI Implementation
Many companies rush to implement AI without understanding basic marketing principles
AI tools often promise solutions but can't replace strategic thinking
The importance of maintaining human oversight and common sense approaches
Using AI as an enhancement rather than a replacement for human decision-making
Effective AI Integration Strategies
Start with clear hypotheses before implementing AI solutions
Focus on using AI for data processing rather than creative decision-making
Maintain human review of AI-generated content and strategies
Use AI tools to augment rather than replace existing marketing processes
The Power of Mentorship and Team Development
Murphy Lewis's forthcoming book focuses on the crucial role of mentorship in business success:
Key Mentorship Principles
Creating structured onboarding processes for interns and new team members
Developing clear SOPs and training materials
Building culture through intentional leadership
Identifying and nurturing talent with potential
Creating Effective Training Systems
Implementing 45-day onboarding programs
Using multiple learning formats (video, written, practical application)
Regular feedback and adjustment mechanisms
Clear progression paths for team members
The Personal Side of Business
The conversation revealed important insights about work-life integration:
Finding Balance
The importance of family in business decisions
How personal values influence business strategy
Balancing professional growth with personal fulfillment
Making decisions that align with long-term life goals
Building Sustainable Success
Creating systems that support both business and personal growth
Understanding the role of attitude in overcoming challenges
Maintaining perspective during difficult times
Investing in relationships alongside business development
Final Thoughts
The conversation reveals a crucial truth about modern marketing: while technology and data provide powerful tools, success ultimately comes from understanding human nature and building genuine connections. Whether you're an artist seeking greater exposure or a business owner looking to scale, the key lies in balancing technical capability with authentic human interaction.
The discussion emphasizes the importance of maintaining a growth mindset while staying grounded in fundamental business principles. Murphy Lewis's approach demonstrates that successful marketing isn't just about implementing the latest tools or strategies—it's about understanding people, building relationships, and creating systems that support sustainable growth.
Remember Peter's generous offer: he provides free fractional CMO sessions daily and welcomes artists and entrepreneurs to reach out for guidance in their journey. His commitment to mentorship and helping others succeed stands as a testament to the power of giving back to the community while building a successful business.