In this enlightening episode, Steve and Alan talk with veteran music educator Mary Cogswell. She shares transformative insights into music education that transcend ensemble size and experience level. Join us as we explore innovative strategies for incorporating creativity, diversity, and meaningful musical experiences into band programs. From finding diverse repertoire to introducing composition techniques and addressing creative standards, Mary offers practical, actionable advice that will inspire educators across all musical disciplines. Whether you're teaching beginners or advanced ensembles, this conversation provides fresh perspectives on engaging students and expanding musical horizons.