Meeting No. 12 - The Case of Andre Daigle - Meeting Minutes:

Discussion (Timestamp 16:37): Rissa tells the story of the murder of Andre Daigle, a murder case cracked by a psychic.

Sources:

• https://www.bustle.com/articles/196001-these-crimes-solved-by-psychics-might-make-you-a-believer
• http://articles.latimes.com/1988-02-07/local/me-41061_1_rosemarie-kerr
• https://www.leagle.com/decision/19881086531so2d5551835
• https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1721375/state-v-horne/
• https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/07/31/Imprisoned-man-sues-to-practice-satanic-rites/2314554702400/
• http://www.stephanaschwartz.com/PDF/ESPDBlue.pdf

Creepy Corrections, Conclusions and Clarifications

• After revisiting one of her source articles again, Rissa concluded that Gervais confessed to the murder of Andre Daigle because he thought that Phillips had confessed. Phillips waived his rights right when they got arrested and Gervais did not. So the police started questioning Phillips. Every time they questioned him, his statement was different, so they had him write it down. Gervais was in the other room watching Phillips write his statement, so he thought Phillips was blaming it all on him. So Gervais waived his rights and asked to speak with the Chief because he didn’t want to take the rap.
• Rissa kept saying Theresa Horne but it’s Thelma Horne.
• Thelma Horne was convicted of second degree murder. So the court concluded that she didn’t actually murder Andre but she aided and abetted Gervais and Phillips. Unclear if she knew that Phillips and Gervais were going to murder Andre.
• A woman named Thelma Augusta Horne, 46, passed away Tuesday, Aug. 16, 2011. Not sure if this is our person.
• A man named Charles Gervais painted a 6’6” x 4’6” oil painting of Our Lady of Fatima while in jail. Seems that he took up the Catholic faith while imprisoned. He laments to this newsletter that he is turning away from his life of crime. He says he ran away from home at age 12, was cared for by “prostitutes” and then became involved in the occult. He said he started his own cult where they killed a child and that’s why he’s in prison. http://www.ncregister.com/site/article/felon_paints_image_of_our_lady_from_prison

Discussion: Rissa and Heidi talk about an old church turned theatre that is reportedly haunted and their ghost investigation tour.

25:02 Discussion start

Heidi talks about 3 cases where subjects didn't know they were being tested on.

Discussion Begins: 20:20

CCC’s

• The Science of Evil – Sasha Baron Cohen’s cousin Simon Baron-Cohen
• Timeline of Laws Related to Human Subjects
• Dioxins and Their Effects on Human Health
• The Killing Season – Docu-series investigating LISK
• Was Quaker Oats Founded by Quakers
• Paula Abdul drunk on American Idol
• It’s All Coming Back to Me – Celine Dion (video)

Pruitt-Igoe

• Suit Filed Over Government Test-Spraying in St. Louis During Cold War
• Pruitt-Igoe and the End of Modernity
• Lisa Martino-Taylor
  • Author – BEHIND THE FOG – How the U.S. Cold War Radiological Weapons Program Exposed Innocent Americans
• The Pruitt-Igoe Myth (documentary)

Rissa talks about an unsolved mystery which happened in Russia.

Sorry about the weird audio!

Discussion Begins:

Creepy Corrections Conclusions & Clarifications

• “Revolution 9“ is a recorded song and composition that appeared on the Beatles‘ 1968 eponymous release (popularly known as the “White Album”).
  • Video

• Being an ethanol scientist
  • Ryan says, “I currently work for a yeast company, actually. So, I go to ethanol plants that use our yeast and help make sure that they’re making ethanol as efficiently as possible. That involves various tests, like throwing the beer under a microscope so I can see how the yeast look and count them and stuff.”

• Romance languages (French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian) came from Vulgar Latin (nonstandard form of Latin spoken in the Mediterranean region during and after the classical period of the Roman Empire.

• Wildlife collectors permit
  • Essentially has to be for scientific or educational purposes. You are probably going to need a sponsoring institution for approval.
• Picture of potential yeti

• Official Government Document Entitled: “Regulations covering mountain climbing expeditions in nepal relating to the yeti.”

Sources

• The Dyatlov Pass Incident
• Dyatlov Pass Incident
• Russia’s Dyatlov Pass Incident – The Strangest Unsolved Mystery of the Last Century
• Episode 152: The Dyatlov Pass Incident

Heidi tells the story of The Southside Rapist in St. Louis, MO.

Corrections, Conclusions and Clarifications

• Couldn’t find anything about baseball riots except that boston rioted after 2004 world series when they swept the cardinals. Bummer!

Source: St. Louis Magazine

Sources:

Chasing Rabbitt

Extra New DNA Helping Solve Cold Cases

Southside Rapist Stabbed in Prison

Confessions of the Southside Rapist

Rissa tells Heidi spooky stories about ghosts who helped solve their own murders.

Discussion begins:

• Creepy Corrections, Conclusions and Clarifications

• Where does rum come from?
  • Rum

• Where does vodka come from?
  • Vodka

• Difference between interpreter and translator
  • the interpreter translates orally, while a translator interprets written text.

• Is it committing a crime to take animal remains from a conservation area
  • Collecting wild animals (including invertebrates) and their unprocessed parts is prohibited except under the provisions of a valid Wildlife Collector’s Permit, or as otherwise authorized in the Wildlife Code.

• Greenbrier, WV population now around 35,000

• Questioning of potential jurors
  • Voir dire which is Latin for “to speak the truth.”

• Shirley Jackson
  • The lottery
  • House on Haunted hill

• Streetlight interference phenomena

Ghosts who helped solve their own murders!

• Zona Hester Shue
• Red Barn Murder
• Teresita Basa
• Golan Heights Axe Murder

• Sources
  • Six Ghosts Who Solved Their Own Murders
  • Top 10 Murder Victims Who Solved Their Own Murders
  • Red Barn Murder
  • The Greenbrier Ghost
  • Reincarnation Case of an Israeli Child who Recalled Being Killed with an Ax & Identifies his Past Life Murderer, Who Confesses

Heidi and Rissa discuss two stories Heidi has a personal connection to -- one being the Chain of Rocks Bridge murders.

Content warning: Rape, violence and murder

On April 4, 1991 four men raped, murdered, and threw sister Julie and Robin Kerry off the Chain of Rocks bridge. They also robbed their cousin Thomas Cummins and forced him to jump from the bridge.

Writing by Jeanine Cummings

• Article by Kerry sister’s cousin, Jeanine Cummins.

Murder isn’t Black or White

• Book by Jeanine Cummins

A Rip in Heaven: A Memoir of Murder and Its Aftermath.

Source Articles

• Reginald Clemons pleads guilty to murder in Old Chain of Rocks Bridge case
• Clemons' hearing ends, New DNA evidence bolsters state’s case
• Editorial: More victims of Reggie Clemons: defendants who might actually be innocent
• Clemons will face new trial for 1991 Chain of Rocks murders
• Clemons claims innocence, testifies police beat him to get murder confession

Rissa tells 3 stories about possible alien encounters from the Show-Me-State: a crash landing predating Roswell in Cape Girardeau, space penguins in Tuscumbia, and some unidentified lights over a very well known monument.

Links:

• I Love Lucy Stomping Grapes
• Graceland Mansion
• Rubber chicken cover of Toto’s Africa
• Westlake documentary - Atomic Homefront
• World Bird Sanctuary
• Native American - Keep America Beautiful commercial
• Washington State Park - petroglyphs

Sources:

• Cape Girardeau Crash
  • http://www.ufocasebook.com/missouricrash.html
  • http://www.southeastarrow.com/story/2455754.html
  • https://www.thoughtco.com/cape-girardeau-missouri-crash-3293442
  • http://www.kfvs12.com/story/31705969/75th-anniversary-of-alleged-ufo-crash-in-cape-girardeau
• Lights over the Arch
  • http://fox2now.com/2016/08/02/did-you-see-the-strange-light-above-the-arch/
  • http://fox2now.com/2016/08/03/ufo-over-the-st-louis-arch-more-video-surfaces-of-unexplained-lights/
• Space Penguins of Tuscumbia
  • http://www.cryptopia.us/site/2011/10/space-penguins-of-tuscumbia-missouri-usa

Heidi tells Rissa the myths and legends behind Japan’s “Suicide Forest.”

Content warning: Suicide

Links:

• Suicide prevention lifeline: 1-800-273-8255
• • https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
• Articles and Blogs about Aokigahara (Suicide Forest)
• • http://mentalfloss.com/article/73288/15-eerie-things-about-japans-suicide-forest
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara
  • https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/aokigahara-suicide-forest
• YouTuber Logan Paul apologizes for filming suicide victim, says ‘I didn’t do it for views’
• How Japan Is Trying to Stop Deaths in the ‘Suicide Forest’ Where YouTuber Logan Paul Filmed
• Inside Japan’s ‘Suicide Forest’ - Rob Gilhooly
• Rob Gilhooly Photos from Suicide Forest (Warning: Images of a deceased man on page 3 & 4)
• Reddit: Ask Me Anything I was part of a suicide victim search party in Aokigahara suicide forest last weekend, ama!
• These Real Stories From The Japanese Suicide Forest Will Make You Afraid Of The Woods
• https://endofthegame.net/2012/02/20/aokigahara/6/
• https://www.xojane.com/relationships/dark-tourism
• Vice - Suicide Forest (video)
• Yurei
• Ittetsu Nemoto

Discussion (Timestamp: 22:30): Rissa talks about the true story the movie, “The Exorcist” was based on as well as strange coincidences that occured on the film set. Rissa and Heidi also reveal their favorite Muppets.

Links:

• ​What the heck is a chain letter?
• • ​http://about.usps.com/publications/pub300a/pub300a_tech_007.htm
  • http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2010/10/you_must_forward_this_story_to_five_friends.html​

• ​Archive of Chain Letters!
• ​White House Jesuit Retreat Center
• St. Michael the Archangel
• Spoon bending video
• Prayers said at an exorcism
• Stigmatized property wiki
• Muppet Babies video

Sources:

• https://www.prairieghosts.com/exorcist.html

• https://www.huntakiller.com/blog-articles/2017/4/1/the-curse-of-the-exorcist

• https://www.demonicpedia.com/general/cast-crew-exorcist-cursed/

• https://www.amazon.com/Possessed-Thomas-Allen/dp/0595132642

Corrections, Conclusions and Clarifications:

• Jesuits are more than just educators

• With 16,000-plus priests, brothers, scholastics and novices worldwide, we are the largest male religious order in the Catholic Church. We are pastors, teachers, and chaplains. We are also doctors, lawyers, and astronomers, among many other roles in Church and society. In our varied ministries, we care for the whole person: body, mind, and soul. And especially in our education ministries, we seek to nurture "men and women for others."

• Acolyte/Altar Server