Phil Iscove, host of Podcast Like It's... and the co-creator of FOX's Sleepy Hollow, joins Derick to break down this 2015 gothic romance from Guillermo del Toro. They discuss why the film went under the radar and how it was mismarketed.

Mia Wasikowska's career, the theater industry, del Toro's pivot to Netflix, and even a few ghost stories are discussed!

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